T-Peos H-100 Hybrid Dynamc/BA Earphone Loaner Tour Impressions
Dec 13, 2012 at 10:26 PM Post #31 of 54
I should have my review up tomorrow. I'm just typing up some additional thoughts and a conclusion and trying to take pictures of the H100 in natural light; tomorrow's the first day I'll be home before sunset since last week.
 
Dec 13, 2012 at 10:40 PM Post #32 of 54
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I should have my review up tomorrow. I'm just typing up some additional thoughts and a conclusion and trying to take pictures of the H100 in natural light; tomorrow's the first day I'll be home before sunset since last week.

 
No prob. Take your time.
 
Dec 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM Post #33 of 54
Done! 
 
 
For years, consumers had to choose between the technical prowess of balanced armatures or the organic sound of dynamic drivers. At around 2006, Ultimate Ears came up with the brilliant idea to combine the two and released the Super.fi 5 EB. For whatever reason, there weren’t very many other dynamic+balanced armature IEMs after it. Fast forward to this year, and T-Peos released their own hybrid IEM. But does it sound good?
 
The H100’s packaging is the best I’ve come across for an IEM. They come in a gorgeous wooden box, with a good amount of accessories inside. There are six additional pairs of silicone tips and a very nice case. There is also a carabiner (for whatever reason), an “earphone necklace,” and an airplane adapter.
 
The H100 is rather sturdily made. The IEMs themselves are pretty large and made completely of metal, which makes for a weighty combination. The cable is a strange combination of rubber sheathed and fabric sheathed. The plug has a knurled section which makes for a nice grip. I do have a problem with the strain reliefs though. The strain relief on the plug is decent, but the one on the IEMs themselves is pretty mediocre.
 
Now on to the sound. The H100 seems to be greatly loved at Head-Fi; their appreciation thread has gotten over 1000 replies, with some selling all their other gear because the H100 has left them obsolete. So the H100 must sound fantastic right? Well, I don’t like them. At all. (With stock tips). This is a great exercise in emphasizing that sound signature preferences can cause one to love or loathe a headphone.
 
The following is just with stock tips, because I’m going to assume not everyone has an assortment of tips at their disposal. I’ll have a section comparing tips later on.
 
This particular pair of H100 is a part of a loaner program, so these are probably burned in.
 
First off, the stock tips are elongated, which means that there will probably be a good amount of bass because of the longer chamber created. There is definitely a lot of bass. Possibly too much bass. That’s the dynamic driver doing its job. My main test track for bass is the JLE Dub Mix of Puscifer’s Indigo Children. (If you haven’t heard of it, I implore you to listen to it. It’s absolutely fantastic as a bass test track.) Throughout the track, there is a low, rumbling beat that on most headphones, is basically inaudible. In fact, the only piece of audio gear I have that replicates it as a rumbling is my Monster Turbine Pro Gold. Sadly, the H100 doesn’t compare very well. The upper bass is taut and well separated, but going down from there, the bass kind of muddles up and becomes less audible. The H100’s portrayal of the upright bass isn’t much better either. In the compilation album The Goat Rodeo Sessions (A highly cool set of songs by Yo-Yo Ma, Stuart Duncan, Edgar Meyer, and Chris Thile), the bass’ timbre is rather awkward and the separation I found to be great on electronic songs was missing. Hopefully T-Peos improves the dynamic driver for future iterations because for other songs, like electronic music that doesn’t involve very low bass, the H100 sounds fantastic. For most other music, it sounds very slightly muddy.
 
The midrange is my biggest issue with the H100. It just isn’t very “there.” Listening to Hayley Westenra’s Pure, I found a distinct valley in the sound. Her voice was very veiled and distant in comparison to the accompanying instruments, which sounded especially bright. I thought that the album might just be an anomaly, so I Eye Alaska’s Genesis Underground, an overproduced, poppy album. Well, there was a lot of bass…not much midrange. Hmm. This is a bit of a problem; the main reason I gravitate to balanced armatures is for a clear sound. With the veiled midrange, there’s not too much reason to ditch my Turbine Pro, which I feel have both better, more realistic bass and honestly, a better midrange. Maybe the treble’s better…
 
…nope. One of the other features of the T-Peos tips is a very wide opening. This allows for the treble to shine, if the treble was good. Sadly, I’m not the biggest fan of the H100’s treble. Yes, it extends pretty well, but there’s just too much of it for me, and that’s coming from a Sony SA5000 fan. It’s the combination of excessive treble and slightly muddy treble make for a bad time to my ears. That and the tinge of sibilance leave me with a bad taste in my mouth. In fact, the excessive treble can interfere with vocals at times. A lot of female vocals sound nasal due to the odd emphasis on certain treble frequencies.
 
Now, this doesn’t seem right. How can an IEM I detest so much get so much attention? Well, one of my hypotheses (and it really is just a hypothesis; I haven’t read a single post in the Head-Fi thread) is that the people that love them so much use aftermarket tips. Since I wasn’t a fan of the treble, I figured that the answer would be to use a tip with a smaller opening.
 
Naturally, my first choice was Sony hybrid tips. Somehow, the sound got more fatiguing. The grating upper treble was extinguished, but the strange lower treble was emphasized, making all vocals nasal. Okay, so no go on the hybrid tips.
 
I was recommended to try Ultimate Ears tips, and I happened to find a pair. Those didn’t work for me either. They increased sibilance despite their taming of the treble. I didn’t bother listening to more than one song with these.
 
I was getting desperate. I tried the MEElectronics double flange tips. They were better than the hybrid tips, but there was still the incredibly annoying nasal quality. Plus, the sound got a little thinner.
 
I remembered I have some spare Comply TX tips, and those are very well known for reducing treble. Maybe these were my saving grace? They were a little better. Actually, they were the best out of the group. But I was still missing a certain something. Maybe the Comply T…
 
Ooh, now we’re getting somewhere. Now they sounded much more natural than the stock tips. There’s a bit of a haze though. My last chance was the Comply TS tips, which were my favorite because they have the treble-reducing qualities of other Comply tips, but also increase midrange slightly.
 
Aaaand with this, I have found my favorite tip for the H100. The treble is reduced just the right amount, the midrange is finally more audible (still recessed, but much less annoying), and the bass happens to be more controlled. I like this a lot. There is a bit of a problem with this though. They’re still not as good as the Turbine Pro in terms of musicalness. They’re technically superior to the Turbines, but…that’s like comparing sedans and choosing the one with a better drag strip time. The H100 is definitely not an analytical IEM, so to me, they lose out because I simply couldn’t find a tip combination that made them sound both as “correct” as possible, while also being as fun as possible.
 
All in all, the H100 was a bit of a disappointment to me. They try to be a jack of all trades, master of none, but honestly I can’t even say they’re that. They just…aren’t that great. For $170, I expect much more than an IEM with excessive treble, clouded midrange, and slightly muddy bass. There really isn’t much I can say that’s positive about the H100 other than that their box is nice. I sincerely hope T-Peos reads this review and takes my issues into account, because I’m not the only one that’s not happy with the H100.
So this also begs the question, how reliable is hype? With most of the headphones I’ve tried that have been hyped up, like the Audio Technica AD700 and M50 and Panasonic HTF600, I’ve been pretty disappointed. Does this say that hype is a bad thing? Not necessarily. Hype does tend to bring heightened expectations that are impossible to live up to, but there are also times when products live up to the hype to my ears, like the Fostex T50RP. And that’s the main problem. Something can sound good “to my ears” and absolutely horrid to someone else’s ears. When looking to buy a piece of gear, especially if it’s on the pricy side, read as many opinions as possible. Or better yet, try it yourself.
 
I'll have pictures up on the Headfonics review, so if you could post the link to that on the first page when I get that up, I'd be greatly appreciative!
 
Dec 15, 2012 at 7:36 PM Post #35 of 54
Appreciate the review, Ishcabible. These piqued my interested, but I think I'll hold off on them. And you're absolutely right - "Puscifer - Indigo Children (JLE Dub Mix)" has got some crazy rumbling sub-bass going on. I can't think of any other song off the top of my head I've ever encountered with this kind of bottom end. This vibration in my head is almost a bit disconcerting... in a good way! Great recommendation - will definitely be using this for A/Bing in the future!
 
Jan 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM Post #38 of 54
REVIEW TIME!  Marked as a spoiler because it's a big block of text.
 
 
 
I was very happy to get a spot on the H-100 Tour, and I thank eke for the chance, and all others before and after me for their participation.
 
Where do I start with the H-100? Beautiful presentation, first of all. The wooden box and fitted packaging give a good sense of quality and intent. The build quality and feel of the H-100 is certainly above average, but I wouldn't quite say top-notch. The cable is a little prone to kinks, and the housings – while very sturdy – unfortunately reminds me of a “stock IEM housing”. The tips included were a good assortment, but as you'll read, ultimately didn't serve their purpose.
 
But none of that really matters, right? What's really important is the sound. Ha... maybe I should say first that I completely understand how shotgunshane and Ishcabible find the IEM disappointing. My first impressions were, without a doubt, those of disappointment – especially considering the $180 or so price tag. What I did was try my best at looking past the flaws and see what the H-100 had over the competition.
 
As alluded earlier, I have to tell you that I found all of the silicone tips included to render the H-100 unlistenable. Even with a perfect, deep seal using normally great hybrid-style tips, the treble spike in the H-100 was far too outlandish to let me listen without literal pain. Indeed, the treble spike (at what sounded like around 3-6kHz, no scientific measurements done) is the main flaw of the H-100. It is accentuated by the long, semi-rigid bore of a silicone tip like that included in the package. It gives a very harsh, loudspeaker-in-a-tunnel sound.
 
So, one of the first things I did was use a pair of Comply T200 foam tips on the H-100. What a difference! The hot treble was still a dominant force, but it was pushed back enough to let me focus on the entire sound signature. It's too bad I don't think the H-100 sound could be tamed any more with tips, because the T200 are the shortest and softest (both aspects taming the treble) tips I know of.
 
There is a ton of detail in the treble. It's probably a factor of T-Peos trying to make the H-100 as resolving as possible that it has such a strong treble spike. To my ears, there is real detail beneath the exaggeration. However, even with the T200 tips, the treble was still prone to sibilance. Fortunately, it is song-dependent. Many flat- or warm-sounding recordings benefited from the extra detail and brighter signature. Anything hot-sounding, though, was a constant teeter between blissful detail and painful sibilance. A good example of something literally unlistenable still with the T200 is the very first second of the song “Love In An Elevator” by Aerosmith. Any cymbal crashes had the ability to be painful with the H-100. Depending on the music you listen to, this alone could rule them out entirely.
 
The upper mids were prominent to my ears, around 1-3kHz. The energy bled into the treble, leading to the issues with sibilance. The sub-1kHz mids were another story all together. They sounded completely sucked out. All the energy normally present in tenor voices was gone. Ripping guitar solos were rendered boring. In the strange dichotomy that is the H-100, though, I found that if I focused intensely on the now-distant lower-mids sections of music, I could hear more timbre and detail than in other similar-priced IEMs I've heard. An Etymotic-like level of detail. It seems as though the quality is there – somewhere – but the tuning is way off and the whole lower-mids section is recessed beyond enjoyability.
 
I've said a lot of negative things about the H-100 so far... let's lighten up with the positives. There's good instrument separation. A hair better than my TDK BA200 in some aspects. It may be an artifact of the treble energy, but I found it easy to pick out the notes of different instruments mixed together. The bass is also a strong performer; it's very tight and fast with a great life-like tone. The actual presence of the bass is what I'd call “normal”. It's not recessed like the mids, nor overbearing like the treble. I also found electronic synthesizers of all things to sound very lifelike (ironic, I know) in a fascinating way, different from how most organic instruments were presented.
 
Let's make some conclusions from the observations. The combination of tight, fast, high-quality bass, a life-like and fascinating quality to synthetic instruments, and high-energy, shimmering treble only useful when treble is not prominent in the song, all comes together to sound like a recommended usage for electronic music. This is without a doubt the genre I think the H-100 would perform best in. The sad truth is for most rock/metal/jazz music – anything with organic drums and guitar – these are a real disappointment. There are flashes of brilliance in the technical merit of the H-100, but it's all overshadowed by what is either poor tuning or poor development. Can one learn to love the H-100? Absolutely. Treble spikes fade slightly over time with purely mental burn-in, and maybe a filter or resistor can be sourced to tame the treble more, and maybe you only like electronic music. There's just too many faults for a lover of any variety of music to be fully satisfied with their mid-tier $180 purchase. I firmly believe if tuned differently, the H-100 would be a top contender. Until then, its boutique pricing belies its faults.
 
Oh yeah, I saw a really intuitive way of rating IEMs that's used in a Japanese magazine in another thread, so why not do that here too?
 
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 Balance (FR) Deep Bass |---|---|---|---|---|-■-| Mids / Highs Soundstage Deep |---|---|---■---|---|---| Wide Presentation Powerful |---|---|---|---|■--|---| Delicate Rock ★★ Jazz ★★ Classical ★★☆ Club ★★★☆ (Out of 5 stars)
 
 
Jan 25, 2013 at 8:54 AM Post #40 of 54
I'd like to add that I didn't read anyone's review of the H-100 before writing my impressions down initially, as to not influence myself. I read them after writing my impressions and added that comparison for hindsight. I was surprised how similar they were, but I guess it goes to reinforce what sound the H-100 offer.
 
I also did all listening to them with a PCM2704 USB DAC.
 
Mar 4, 2013 at 4:36 PM Post #43 of 54
Glad to know that we have some relatively similar impressions of them.
 
Mar 25, 2013 at 1:10 AM Post #44 of 54
T-PEOS H-100
 
At this point in the tour, it seems like not many people are interested in what the remaining members has left to say, mostly because the general consensus of this tour agrees on the H-100 being a little… rubbish.
 
I don’t think I need to explain the H-100 as other members has done this already so I’m going to go straight into the sound.
 
Testing equipment: Laptop w/foobar2k w/WASAPI -> Calyx Coffee 96k/24bit DAC (in 96/24 music) ->Headstage Arrow 4G (or no amp)-> H-100
Mobile testing: iPhone 4G -> LOD -> Arrow 4G -> H-100
 
Okay, ow my ears. For the sake of your enjoyment, I’ll try not to repeat what the others already said about the H-100, but MAN the treble is funky… I rarely come across ear piercing treble and I certainly am not sensitive to treble (I enjoy Grados a lot). It’s not the prominent treble that hurts, it’s mostly the delivery and unstable nature of it.
 
I love my midrange as much as anything else. To put it simply, the H-100 fails to satisfy me. Mids are super dry, lifeless, and as others described it, almost tunnel-like. It also seems a bit muffled, but this is mostly due to the V-shape signature it possesses.
 
The bass is good though, surprise here. To put it simply, the Dynamic driver is good, the BA is bad, or as shotguneshane suggested, “marriage of the two driver technologies have been blended very well”. The bass has good slam and plenty of body to it. Fast, articulate, and neither overpowering or light in quantity. It’s able to keep up with fast rock, and is able to deliver plenty of slam for more demanding tracks. Like the specs say, it manages to reach 24Hz and is barely audible at 20Hz.
 
Fairly linear soundstage, not what I would call 3D like, but I would say adequate separation and positioning here. Just wished that the mids were more forward, a lot more forward. I’d take an upside down V-shape over a regular V-shape any day.
 
Now that I have a massive headache from the treble, I conclude this review with a NO GO for me. I would not buy the H-100 for $200, $150, and $100. Even as a Korean myself, I am not impressed with what my hometown has created, but with that said, I think this is a good start for T-Peos. Seeing how they managed (not entirely successfully) to create a hybrid IEM, I think they can make an IEM with high praise if they listened to what the reviewers and customers say about the H-100. Good effort T-Peos, but you have to try a lot harder than that to win my ears over 
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