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I can third that for customer service. He is very patient and also very easy to talk to. Definately some of the best customer service out there.
I can third that for customer service. He is very patient and also very easy to talk to. Definately some of the best customer service out there.
The big, eight-channel ES9018 uses too much power for it to be possibly used in any Concero unit, because Concero is USB-powered, and thus must fall within the 500 mA limit. I imagine the next generation of high-end DAPs will be using the ES9018-2M for the same reason --- power restrictions.
Regarding the actual design differences, my guess is that, beyond the ES9018 being eight-channel and the 2M being two-channel, the 2M might've gotten a die shrink, to further reduce power requirements and to allow it to fit in a 28-QFN package. But who knows what the actual differences are. All the core technologies should be the same, however.
Of course, the 2M won't perform as well because it is putting all the processing power into two channels, whereas an ES9018 can distribute processing across four channels for each side of the stereo image, further improving SNR, IMD, and THD+N. The 2M, reading purely from specs, should perform near on par with the old ES9016 (which was used in the headamp section for the 1st Invicta). The amp stage of the Concero HP (and the line output of the HD as well) is similar in implementation to the Invicta's, except perhaps that the Invicta could juice the amp a bit better. I've never used nor encountered the Invicta and its headamp before, so I can't comment for sure how it performs, but from peoples' impressions, it's amazing. I am already amazed by how well the HP can perform, and it clearly plays a level above all other USB-powered devices. The only thing it's lacking is that it might not have the sheer power to juice the hungriest cans, and stereo separation may suffer slightly because of that. Luckily, I'm primarily an IEM user, and the HP works amazingly well for that purpose. I feel I can use the HP for many years to come.
I am already amazed by how well the HP can perform, and it clearly plays a level above all other USB-powered devices. The only thing it's lacking is that it might not have the sheer power to juice the hungriest cans, and stereo separation may suffer slightly because of that. Luckily, I'm primarily an IEM user, and the HP works amazingly well for that purpose. I feel I can use the HP for many years to come.
I think the Concero HP will drop a few jaws at the Dallas meet. Alone, it is very nearly the equal of my Concero + Decware CSP2+ rig (which in total is more than double the price of the HP). The only exception is the lack of sweet tube magic which I absolutely must have in a headphone rig... HP can't get there by itself. Dang.
But otherwise, yeah, wow, what a package. Can't beat the portability either. In that respect it's an AWESOME amp for the HD800... might have to get one for just that purpose. Decware gear doesn't exactly fit in an airline carryon.
Yep... I could hardly believe it. The HP represents an even greater value-for-the-dollar proposition than the original Concero. My Decware+Concero rig is not even close to being portable and is at least $1000 more.
Worth it? To me, yes. I need that liquid tube magic in the mix. When it's not there, I notice... and I want it back.
But for others? Probably not. That extra $1000 doesn't scale as high anymore because the HP just smashed the value curve. Which is a little annoying because for the money I'd rather the Decware be closer to the Liquid Glass in terms of sound quality than the HP... but that's the way things roll around here. Technology just keeps marching on and on, relentlessly.
I'm still quite happy with my rig & will keep it as-is. But yeah, for $850, the HP delivers a screw-ton of value as an HD800 solution. It's a must-try.
If the HP+HD800 is equivalent to the CSP minus the decware sound, that's pretty ridiculous. One crazy value for sure. To see multiple people whos opinions I respect vouching for this dac makes it all the more intriguing. I would not have expected the HP out to be so good, but it sounds like it must be amazing for HD800 lovers on a budget.