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Originally Posted by Zuckfun View Post

I wish my ears weren't so finicky, sure would save some money. And not sure if this is the right place to post this, but many here know more than me, and have much more experience, so here goes: I have 2 mid-fi headphones- HD650 and HE400. I'm trying to find one headphone that does almost everything well. I don't listen to Classical- mostly only Rock and Jazz. And most of my music isn't modern prefressional recordings. This is what I love about the HD650- it's so forgiving and pleasing to the ear. But it doesn't have the clarity, detail or speed of the HE400. Trying to decide where to go from here. Reading David's review, it seems like the T1 might fit. I have no idea of it's sound signature though. Or maybe LCD-2, though hoping the weight and clamping wouldn't crush my noggin. Thanks for any input.

 

I think the T1 is a very, very good all-rounder. If you are looking for "One cans to rule them all", T1 might be the way to go. Though personally, I don't really like it. It sounds a bit plain to me due to not having any speciality. If you have the chance, listen to the T90 and you would get the general idea of T1's sound sig.

post #4772 of 4961

+1 for the T1.   

 

The T1 is much better than the T90, I don't like the T90 but the T1 is in a different league.


Edited by pdrm360 - 12/30/13 at 8:20pm
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post
 

I think the T1 is a very, very good all-rounder. If you are looking for "One cans to rule them all", T1 might be the way to go. Though personally, I don't really like it. It sounds a bit plain to me due to not having any speciality. If you have the chance, listen to the T90 and you would get the general idea of T1's sound sig.


why isn't the LCD-2 in the one can to rule em all category?lol

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why isn't the LCD-2 in the one can to rule em all category?lol

 

LCD-2 sounds a bit dark to me, so personally I wouldn't classify it as 'all-rounder'. But it sounds addictive though :D definitely my next cans to get.

post #4775 of 4961
It seems like detailed and forgiving are mutually exclusive. Perhaps the T1 is the answer- but David's description that these headphones can have hot treble in some set-ups- couldn't this translate to hot treble with some recordings? If there's one thing the HE400's taught me, it's if drums aren't recorded well, a detailed headphone will playback these drums in an irritating fashion. Maybe it's just the HE400's that are this way. Anyways, going back to the original point- if a recording has flaws, be it minor imperfections- is it the nature of a detailed summit-fi headphone to expose those flaws- in such a way that it detracts from enjoying the recording? Sorry for the rambling, just trying to figure out what end game cans will translate to for me.
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It seems like detailed and forgiving are mutually exclusive. Perhaps the T1 is the answer- but David's description that these headphones can have hot treble in some set-ups- couldn't this translate to hot treble with some recordings? If there's one thing the HE400's taught me, it's if drums aren't recorded well, a detailed headphone will playback these drums in an irritating fashion. Maybe it's just the HE400's that are this way. Anyways, going back to the original point- if a recording has flaws, be it minor imperfections- is it the nature of a detailed summit-fi headphone to expose those flaws- in such a way that it detracts from enjoying the recording? Sorry for the rambling, just trying to figure out what end game cans will translate to for me.

 

It all eventually comes down to preference and yes, I think cans like LCD-2 would help to muffle flaws from bad recordings, making everything more enjoyable. On the other hand, there are people who actually preferred bright cans against dark/warm cans.

 

 

Obviously the best solution is to get at least one of each bright and dark pair of cans :D

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It all eventually comes down to preference and yes, I think cans like LCD-2 would help to muffle flaws from bad recordings, making everything more enjoyable. On the other hand, there are people who actually preferred bright cans against dark/warm cans.

 

Obviously the best solution is to get at least one of each bright and dark pair of cans :D

Nooo... obviously the best solution is to join the DARK side!!!!!!

 

I heard they have cookies!!!!!!!!!!! :) *nomnomnom*

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Funny!!  I like cooookies.

 

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Nooo... obviously the best solution is to join the DARK side!!!!!!

 

I heard they have cookies!!!!!!!!!!! :) *nomnomnom*

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Stax  - Detailed, yet not fatiguing. 

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I joined the DARK SIDE a few moons back. Is U.S. Customs holding up my free cookie :confused: 

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Stax  - Detailed, yet not fatiguing. 
Which model in particular ? Or all of them ?
Thanks
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Stax  - Detailed, yet not fatiguing. 
My knowledge of Stax is very little, though detailed and not fatiguing is an intriguing combination.
Edited by Zuckfun - 12/31/13 at 3:07pm
post #4783 of 4961

In general 'stats tend to be that way. My ESP950 is still my favorite headphone overall after owning the T5p and PS1000, and auditioning plenty of other flagships long-term. As far as dynamic drivers go, I think the can that comes closest to that sound is the T1.

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In your case I would be going for the HE-500 or LCD2. The HE-500 has a more forgiving and less strident treble with similar to better detail and imaging. Fuller midrange and a slightly laid back sound. The LCD2 is basically what you should upgrade to if you are enamored with the HD650 fully, laid back similar overall balance and far higher detail, speed, clarity and imaging. 

 

The Beyer T1 has treble that can be tizzy and unwieldly like the HE-400 - on poorer recordings. As much as you may want to argue the T1 treble not being a bit abrasive on great audiophile standard recordings it can sound over pronounced on Rock recordings with hot cymbals. If you listen to an old recording like UFO's albums, Scorpions or similar it can sound harsh. The LCD2 and HE-500 don't show up these kind of recordings for example.

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Most estats are not fatiguing in the treble, yet very very detailed. Some models like the lambda sigs might seem fatiguing in the upper mids as they are pretty pronounced. Can be to me at least. Still, they don't really slaughter bad recordings either, they just don't sound as good with said recordings IME.
But stats are also different from model to model ofc.
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