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post #1741 of 3313
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double up on the material and let us know any changes smily_headphones1.gif

Dampening is like applying car wax, more does not mean better. 

I'll pass, thank you, but I am here and all ears for your impressions after the mod. :p 

post #1742 of 3313

Question for lucky owners of TH900 and TH600.

How do details compare on both? I understand that TH600 is closed design and there is a lot of compromises to be made but it's really, I mean really pale in this department against T1 or even against another closed  ATH-W5000.

Wondering if TH900 offers any significant improvement in that area, if that's something like 5-10% I wouldn't even bother at double the price.

Also, if anyone compared them against Ultrasone Sig DJ, are those any better there, I mean micro details specifically?


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 12/29/13 at 7:36pm
post #1743 of 3313
Ive not heard t1 but I find that hard to believe. I think th600 are incredibly detailed throughout all frequencies. Have dt1350 which are like mini t1s and yes their detailed and perhaps more 'analytical' (flatter) but th600 way more detailed. Perhaps it depends on the genre, I'd imagine t1 would do classical well from what ive read, they're semi open and don't have emphasised bass like the fostexs
post #1744 of 3313
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 

Question for lucky owners of TH900 and TH600.

How do details compare on both? I understand that TH600 is closed design and there is a lot of compromises to be made but it's really, I mean really pale in this department against T1 or even against another closed  ATH-W5000.

Wondering if TH900 offers any significant improvement in that area, if that's something like 5-10% I wouldn't even bother at double the price.

Also, if anyone compared them against Ultrasone Sig DJ, are those any better there, I mean micro details specifically?

 

Personally I feel the difference in overall SQ - TH-600 vs TH-900 is about 10% all things being equal. Detail retrieval will be slightly better with the TH-900 but not a night and day difference. Most of your improvement will be bass definition, treble smoothness, and imaging. I have owned both, and decided I couldn't live without the Fostex sound so I ordered a TH-600 because it offers more value. Since the headphone will be used mostly for gaming and background music while I work, I don't need that extra bit offered by the TH-900. Plus I found a mint pair of TH-600's for $540, couldn't pass that up...

post #1745 of 3313

I used to own the T1 (sold of when I was downsizing) and currently own both the TH600 (office) and TH900 (home). Personally, I don't think the TH600 pales to the T1 at all. TH600 does some things the T1 can only dream of, while the T1 beats it on some other categories. Apples to oranges, really. Then again, I've always thought the T1 was way too dry unless you drove it with a wet syrupy amp (tubes, more often than not). If you prefer the T1 to the TH600, then I don't think the TH900 will change your opinion since it does more of what the TH600 does, only in a more refined fashion.

post #1746 of 3313
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I used to own the T1 (sold of when I was downsizing) and currently own both the TH600 (office) and TH900 (home). Personally, I don't think the TH600 pales to the T1 at all. TH600 does some things the T1 can only dream of, while the T1 beats it on some other categories. Apples to oranges, really. Then again, I've always thought the T1 was way too dry unless you drove it with a wet syrupy amp (tubes, more often than not). If you prefer the T1 to the TH600, then I don't think the TH900 will change your opinion since it does more of what the TH600 does, only in a more refined fashion.

Please reread my post, timbre preferences aside, T1 provides gobs more details information over TH600, I mean it's not even close, different league altogether.

Used to own and A/B-ing two is a huge difference. All alone I think TH600 are quite detailed, surprisingly so comparing to other closed in that price range, but compared to T1 and W5K they just suck balls (again, I am speaking strictly from micro details retrieval perspective)


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 12/29/13 at 8:38pm
post #1747 of 3313
I had the TH900 back when I had the T1 (along with some other headphones), and did extensive A/B ing between the two. The TH900 was the only headphone that warranted keeping when I decided to downsize my collection.

That I've owned the TH900 alongside the T1 should tell you enough. Since I now own a TH600 and have A/B'ed it next to the TH900, I maintain that the TH600 does not "pale" to the T1 in most departments, and beats it flat-out in some areas as a matter of fact.

It's your money, but I feel the TH900 won't justify the extra expense unless you have amplification capable (eg: Bakoon HPA-21) of bringing out that last 10 - 20% it offers over the TH600.
Edited by kurochin - 12/29/13 at 9:15pm
post #1748 of 3313
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Originally Posted by kurochin View Post

I had the TH900 back when I had the T1 (along with some other headphones), and did extensive A/B ing between the two. The TH900 was the only headphone that warranted keeping when I decided to downsize my collection.

That I've owned the TH900 alongside the T1 should tell you enough. Since I now own a TH600 and have A/B'ed it next to the TH900, I maintain that the TH600 does not "pale" to the T1 in most departments, and beats it flat-out in some areas as a matter of fact.

It's your money, but I feel the TH900 won't justify the extra expense unless you have amplification capable (eg: Bakoon HPA-21) of bringing out that last 10 - 20% it offers over the TH600.

Thanks, guess my setup just squeezes much more out of T1 than TH600. For the record I am not a huge T1 fan, much prefer HD800.


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 12/29/13 at 10:55pm
post #1749 of 3313
Sorry if this has already been covered, but has anybody tried the Schiit Asgard 2 with the TH600? I'm not looking to spend much more than 300, I'd like to avoid tubes because I have small children, and I'd like it to sound OK with my LCD2 as well. The A2 seems to fit the bill, but I was hoping somebody who has tried this combo could chime in before I order one. Thanks!

PS. My cheaper alternative plan is to get an impedance adapter so I can use the TH600 with my Schiit Vali (what can I say, I'm a fan). Anybody tried something similar?
post #1750 of 3313
Oh, I don't know if this is well known or not, but on eBay Sonic Sense Pro Audio is selling new TH600 for $620. I've been looking at the TH600 for a while now, and that just pushed me over the edge.
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Oh, I don't know if this is well known or not, but on eBay Sonic Sense Pro Audio is selling new TH600 for $620. I've been looking at the TH600 for a while now, and that just pushed me over the edge.

You wont be disappointed. At that price you will be over the moon! Happy New Year!

post #1752 of 3313
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You wont be disappointed. At that price you will be over the moon! Happy New Year!

Thanks and happy new year to you too!
post #1753 of 3313
Happy New Year.

Can I ask recommendations for a portable can?
I've been using my TH600s as a portable but they're really not that portable. I love it's sound but it needs a bit more thickness in the mids. Any help appreciated
post #1754 of 3313
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Happy New Year.

Can I ask recommendations for a portable can?
I've been using my TH600s as a portable but they're really not that portable. I love it's sound but it needs a bit more thickness in the mids. Any help appreciated

sony mdr 7520(thickest in the mids of the mentioned), akg k545, yamaha hph mt220

 

also heard the p7(i heard em but they are overpriced imo... good materials though) Nad viso hp50 are good.

 

Hey btw how does that ibasso pb2 do with your th600?


Edited by grizzlybeast - 12/31/13 at 12:42pm
post #1755 of 3313
@spurxiii

Maybe Ultrasone - Sig Pro or Sig DJ. Those are the only high-end headphones I can think of that are reasonably good for portable use. Different sound signature though. Ultrasones are an acquired taste, though the Signature series models aren't quite as polarizing as the Edition series. Best not to buy blind.

Or you could just save a lot of money and get something like the Audio Technica ATH-M50. Obviously nowhere near as refined as the TH600 or other summit cans, but it's far less fragile. I'm sure brands like Sennheiser have something as well (one of the Momentums, maybe). The Sony that @grizzlybeast mentioned sounds like it would do the job as well, I guess.

If you plan on spending TH series money on something portable, I think CIEMs would be a better choice, to be honest. They've come quite a long way in terms of resolution and imaging. Some even come close to replicating that out-of-head imaging that top full-size headphones give, though it varies by brand and price.

.... and a Happy Nu Year to everyone.
Edited by kurochin - 12/31/13 at 12:57pm
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