PONO - Neil Youngs portable hi-res music player

Feb 12, 2015 at 12:06 AM Post #2,281 of 4,870
It is not balanced if it has single input. You can connect it with one of the same cable. Just don't change the settings to balanced mode. Best case it will sound strange, worse case you might damage it.
 
Feb 12, 2015 at 12:26 AM Post #2,282 of 4,870
I don't think anything bad will happen if you have a "Y" adapter and feed the balanced signal to the amp, but, there's not much point, you'll lose the benefits of running balanced.


That would sum it to mono with the left and the right having inverted polarity. It could possibly damage the pono, depending how much it can tolerate the outputs driving each other.
 
I would love to know if can take a hit from phantom power. There is alway a chance I would plug it into a preamp and not catch the phantom power is on.
 
Feb 12, 2015 at 5:45 PM Post #2,286 of 4,870
Would this be an ideal wire to pair a Pono with a V-moda XS? And if not which would be?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Pono-Player-Headphone-Cable-Balanced-4-Pin-XLR-Adapter-/171600336189

 
You would still need a cable to go from 4 pin XLR male to your headphones.
 
Feb 12, 2015 at 8:38 PM Post #2,288 of 4,870
If your headphones can connect to that cable (read what it needs) then you should be good.  The Pono plugs are fine, it's a question of what's on the end of your phones.
 
Pono music player adapter. Make any 4pin XLR balanced headphone cable  compatible with the balanced connectors on the new Pono music player.
 
Feb 12, 2015 at 9:39 PM Post #2,289 of 4,870
If your headphones can connect to that cable (read what it needs) then you should be good.  The Pono plugs are fine, it's a question of what's on the end of your phones.

Pono music player adapter. Make any 4pin XLR balanced headphone cable  compatible with the balanced connectors on the new Pono music player.
Thanks yeah that's what I needed.

Aside from balanced mode because I haven't throughly assessed that, Pono is a strong and solid DAP, best I've heard personally. For the whole hi rez thing, all I can attest to is MP3 / lossy < FLAC, 44.1/6 or 48/16 is the highest I see necessary. I personally hear no discernible differences between a 192/24 or 96/24 when converted to 44.1/16 or 48/16.

Not that I ever expected to and seeing as I went into the purchase with an archived library of lossless originally used for iTunes and AAC conversion, it's safe to say my musical needs are satisfied for quite sometime.
 
Feb 12, 2015 at 10:17 PM Post #2,290 of 4,870
Some ponoplayer updates:
 
-- Just got another firmware update, the 2nd one since purchase. Good stuff. The update was seamless and I can tell they are improving the player software as quickly as possible. So far it's smoother, the anti-aliasing on the text looks better, and it has smarter sleep behavior, seemingly solving the phantom button pushing problem.  
 
See, is used to be that the pono buttons get pushed in your bag and it wakes from sleep and starts playing, draining your battery. Now when it's asleep and the buttons are pushed, the screen wakes but requires a swipe to activate, so at least it won't play and the screen shuts back off in about 5 seconds.
 
 
-- I lost the USB cable and found out that the PS4 uses the same cables for the controller charging. It's a Mini-USB type B 5-pin, and monoprice has them for 70 cents so I picked up 2 more.
 
 
-- Standby time has been better than expected. It can sit for a couple of days without losing much charge. It also passes airport security w/o incident.

 
-- I just bought Let It Bleed and Who's Next at 24bit and I'm glad I did. Used ProStudioMasters.com. 
 
I played each for about 10 minutes just on my laptop and wow, yes, that's what I'm talking about!  I went right to iTunes store and checked the same albums at 256k mp3 and even after giving them 3 volume clicks up still BLECH flat, boxy, compression artifacts everywhere.... honestly, how does apple get away with selling that stuff?
 
I haven't found the 16bit CD I have of Let It Bleed to test against, but I will when I can. I can tell you that 24bit Baba O'Reilly is better than vinyl. I am going to enjoy those records on the ponoplayer, give me a few days on that.
 
I still say use the 16bit if you have it, buy the 24bit if you want to treat yourself. Things have consistently sounded 20-40% better to me at 24bit, just bigger, wider, more natural, more air, better layering. It's not insulting 16bit, which can sound damn good, but I consistently hear classic albums improved at 24bit.
 
treat yo-self day = 24bit or bust
 
Feb 12, 2015 at 11:00 PM Post #2,293 of 4,870
  You didn't mention that it has now got DSD implemented.  Busy copying over my files from my X5.  

You might want to hang on to that X5 olddude. Everything I have read suggests the SE846 and X5 are very good together. Something to do with the output impedance being less than 0.26 Ω.
 
Before I went off this hobby I was considering getting the SE846's so I am very interested to see how you go with both pairings.
 
Cheers.
 
Feb 12, 2015 at 11:04 PM Post #2,294 of 4,870
Haven't sold it yet.  Waiting for MassDrop to get/send the Shures.  Right now I'm transferring 55gb of DSD/DSF files to my desktop so I can then plop them on the 128 SanDisk I bought at the end of the Holiday.  Then into the Pono to see how the DSDs sound.  
 
Feb 12, 2015 at 11:19 PM Post #2,295 of 4,870
I finally have listened to some mp3's on my pono player and it really does improve them. Amazing. Here's to a good DAC and good analog stage, because these are the same mp3's of my own music that sound pretty craptastic on the iPhone. Most are 256, some 192.
 
I hear all of the artifacts and smallness that comes with mp3, but there is still some pono advantage there. Same full warmth, wide soundstage, just less so with the mp3. It's very interesting to hear the differences since i've bought the pono, i've been enjoying the ride.
 
 
I will have to update my review in a few areas re: this new discovery of mp3 on the ponoplayer. Their is a clear upgrade from mp3 to 16/44 and then again to 24bit through the PP, due to the clarity of the rest of the chain IMHO.
 
 
Here's my long review if you haven't checked it out yet. I wrote that about 2 months ago so I need to refresh it a bit.
 
http://tinyurl.com/qhp3smt
 

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