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Foobar wasapi 3.0(push) changes the headphones sound

post #1 of 27
9/9/12 at 8:41am
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I just downloaded the new wasapi 3.0 and it changed the way the music is played through the headphones. The sound is much more spread out. I am using the push setting, the event setting sounds like the old wasapi.  You guys should check it out.


Edited by dre2000 - 9/9/12 at 10:46am
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post #2 of 27
9/9/12 at 9:05am
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Originally Posted by dre2000 View Post

I just downloaded the new wasapi 3.0 and it changed the way the music is played through the headphones. The sound is much more spread out. I am using the push setting, the event setting sounds like the old wasapi.  You guys should check it out.

 

Interesting -> checking out ^^ Wait, what kind of weird file is that (foo_out_wasapi.fb2k-component ?), I'm used to .dll files. :P How to install this thing or do I need later foobar2000 versions?

 

This is something I don't like with foobar2000, never any install instructions with any plugins or anything. :p


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 9/9/12 at 9:13am
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post #3 of 27
9/9/12 at 9:14am
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Interesting -> checking out ^^ Wait, what kind of weird file is that (foo_out_wasapi.fb2k-component ?), I'm used to .dll files. :P How to install this thing or do I need later foobar2000 versions?

 

This is something I don't like with foobar2000, never any install instructions with any plugins or anything. :p

File -> preferences -> components -> install

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post #4 of 27
9/9/12 at 9:17am
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File -> preferences -> components -> install

 

Doesn't pick up that file format... guess it won't work with foobar v1.1.6? Yea seems this was introduced since 1.1.11


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 9/9/12 at 9:21am
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post #5 of 27
9/9/12 at 9:27am
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Doesn't pick up that file format... guess it won't work with foobar v1.1.6? Yea seems this was introduced since 1.1.11

I just went ahead and downloaded the new foobar.  I didn't know what to do with the format either, I just ended up extracting the files with winrar and put them in the components folder.

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post #6 of 27
9/9/12 at 9:28am
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Doesn't pick up that file format... guess it won't work with foobar v1.1.6? Yea seems this was introduced since 1.1.11

It's just a container, extract it. 

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post #7 of 27
9/9/12 at 9:45am

Good to know, but it seems it doesn't the new wasapi plugin doesn't support v1.1.6 anyway (shows up an error message when starting foobar2000) :P Oh well I updated and must say to me "event" sounds slightly better than "push". I get better sense of depth with it. It's weird, it's as if "event" gives you better depth while "push" gives you wider stage, pick your preference haha.

 

EDIT: I also find event to provide more easier to follow imaging, somehow it's just easier for me to pinpoint locations of different sounds with it.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 9/9/12 at 9:58am
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post #8 of 27
9/9/12 at 10:50am
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Good to know, but it seems it doesn't the new wasapi plugin doesn't support v1.1.6 anyway (shows up an error message when starting foobar2000) :P Oh well I updated and must say to me "event" sounds slightly better than "push". I get better sense of depth with it. It's weird, it's as if "event" gives you better depth while "push" gives you wider stage, pick your preference haha.

 

EDIT: I also find event to provide more easier to follow imaging, somehow it's just easier for me to pinpoint locations of different sounds with it.

After listening more, I see that event gives the vocals a thicker sound. I can't say that push sounds better anymore.


Edited by dre2000 - 9/9/12 at 10:58am
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post #9 of 27
9/9/12 at 5:04pm

Well, can't say I notice any sound differences but this new version fixed the WASAPI problem with my HDMI audio hookup so thanks!

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post #10 of 27
9/10/12 at 6:54am

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3.0 version highlights:
* Faster volume control
* 32bit integer mode if 32bit floating-point is not supported by the device
* Operates in two different modes, regular and event-driven - the latter seems to be more compatible with USB devices, but not supported by some other devices.
* Separate process sandbox for improved stability.

 

http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_out_wasapi

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post #11 of 27
9/11/12 at 8:10am
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post

Good to know, but it seems it doesn't the new wasapi plugin doesn't support v1.1.6 anyway (shows up an error message when starting foobar2000) :P Oh well I updated and must say to me "event" sounds slightly better than "push". I get better sense of depth with it. It's weird, it's as if "event" gives you better depth while "push" gives you wider stage, pick your preference haha.

 

EDIT: I also find event to provide more easier to follow imaging, somehow it's just easier for me to pinpoint locations of different sounds with it.

So that what the push setting does, I was wondering why it was added. But i figure it did something but  I didn't know what since i don't think they would had add it if it didn't do any thing.

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post #12 of 27
9/11/12 at 9:57am

Not so sure I like this new wasapi version, it has great soundstage and sounds airier/more open but at the expense of "forwardness" and "weightiness" to it. I like better the soundstage of the new but like possibly better the old as it sounds less thin.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 9/11/12 at 10:00am
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post #13 of 27
9/11/12 at 11:18am

Is there any point to upgrading if the version of wasapi i have works fine?
 

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post #14 of 27
9/11/12 at 11:37am
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Is there any point to upgrading if the version of wasapi i have works fine?
 


Not really. If it isn't broken, don't fix it

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post #15 of 27
9/11/12 at 12:03pm

According to the documentation, all it does is change the driver settings to make sure it's compatible with your soundcard. So long as your card is compatible with the given setting, there should be no change in sound.

 

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Components_0.9/foo_out_wasapi

 

I switched between the two a few times and noticed no difference.

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