Foobar wasapi 3.0(push) changes the headphones sound
Sep 9, 2012 at 11:41 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 38

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I just downloaded the new wasapi 3.0 and it changed the way the music is played through the headphones. The sound is much more spread out. I am using the push setting, the event setting sounds like the old wasapi.  You guys should check it out.
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM Post #2 of 38
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I just downloaded the new wasapi 3.0 and it changed the way the music is played through the headphones. The sound is much more spread out. I am using the push setting, the event setting sounds like the old wasapi.  You guys should check it out.

 
Interesting -> checking out ^^ Wait, what kind of weird file is that (foo_out_wasapi.fb2k-component ?), I'm used to .dll files. :p How to install this thing or do I need later foobar2000 versions?
 
This is something I don't like with foobar2000, never any install instructions with any plugins or anything. :p
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM Post #3 of 38
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Interesting -> checking out ^^ Wait, what kind of weird file is that (foo_out_wasapi.fb2k-component ?), I'm used to .dll files. :p How to install this thing or do I need later foobar2000 versions?
 
This is something I don't like with foobar2000, never any install instructions with any plugins or anything. :p

File -> preferences -> components -> install
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:27 PM Post #5 of 38
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Doesn't pick up that file format... guess it won't work with foobar v1.1.6? Yea seems this was introduced since 1.1.11

I just went ahead and downloaded the new foobar.  I didn't know what to do with the format either, I just ended up extracting the files with winrar and put them in the components folder.
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM Post #7 of 38
Good to know, but it seems it doesn't the new wasapi plugin doesn't support v1.1.6 anyway (shows up an error message when starting foobar2000) :p Oh well I updated and must say to me "event" sounds slightly better than "push". I get better sense of depth with it. It's weird, it's as if "event" gives you better depth while "push" gives you wider stage, pick your preference haha.
 
EDIT: I also find event to provide more easier to follow imaging, somehow it's just easier for me to pinpoint locations of different sounds with it.
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 1:50 PM Post #8 of 38
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Good to know, but it seems it doesn't the new wasapi plugin doesn't support v1.1.6 anyway (shows up an error message when starting foobar2000) :p Oh well I updated and must say to me "event" sounds slightly better than "push". I get better sense of depth with it. It's weird, it's as if "event" gives you better depth while "push" gives you wider stage, pick your preference haha.
 
EDIT: I also find event to provide more easier to follow imaging, somehow it's just easier for me to pinpoint locations of different sounds with it.

After listening more, I see that event gives the vocals a thicker sound. I can't say that push sounds better anymore.
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 8:04 PM Post #9 of 38
Well, can't say I notice any sound differences but this new version fixed the WASAPI problem with my HDMI audio hookup so thanks!
 
Sep 10, 2012 at 9:54 AM Post #10 of 38

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3.0 version highlights:
* Faster volume control
* 32bit integer mode if 32bit floating-point is not supported by the device
* Operates in two different modes, regular and event-driven - the latter seems to be more compatible with USB devices, but not supported by some other devices.
* Separate process sandbox for improved stability.

 
http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_out_wasapi
 
Sep 11, 2012 at 11:10 AM Post #11 of 38
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Good to know, but it seems it doesn't the new wasapi plugin doesn't support v1.1.6 anyway (shows up an error message when starting foobar2000) :p Oh well I updated and must say to me "event" sounds slightly better than "push". I get better sense of depth with it. It's weird, it's as if "event" gives you better depth while "push" gives you wider stage, pick your preference haha.
 
EDIT: I also find event to provide more easier to follow imaging, somehow it's just easier for me to pinpoint locations of different sounds with it.

So that what the push setting does, I was wondering why it was added. But i figure it did something but  I didn't know what since i don't think they would had add it if it didn't do any thing.
 
Sep 11, 2012 at 12:57 PM Post #12 of 38
Not so sure I like this new wasapi version, it has great soundstage and sounds airier/more open but at the expense of "forwardness" and "weightiness" to it. I like better the soundstage of the new but like possibly better the old as it sounds less thin.
 
Sep 11, 2012 at 2:18 PM Post #13 of 38
Is there any point to upgrading if the version of wasapi i have works fine?
 
 
Sep 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM Post #15 of 38
According to the documentation, all it does is change the driver settings to make sure it's compatible with your soundcard. So long as your card is compatible with the given setting, there should be no change in sound.
 
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Components_0.9/foo_out_wasapi
 
I switched between the two a few times and noticed no difference.
 

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