[elnero]

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Just got mine in. I keep checking to make sure I really have something stuffed in my ears and the seal is right because these sound more like an open can than any IEM I have ever heard. These things are so good they defy my mind's logic of what they should sound like. Very impressive. 

Congrats! I'm completely smitten with the demo pair myself. I'm in the process of selling off my other gear to try and scrape together the funds to get a pair as well.

 

[lee730]

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Just got mine in. I keep checking to make sure I really have something stuffed in my ears and the seal is right because these sound more like an open can than any IEM I have ever heard. These things are so good they defy my mind's logic of what they should sound like. Very impressive. 

Cool . Yeah it's hard to believe they are IEMs. I also find myself messing around with the seal thinking something is off. But its due to them being so open/spacious.

 

[rudi0504]

lol I figured the Tera or Iriver would be your favorite . They do have really good synergy though. Does the Intruder really help the Studio V out? I've never found an amp that has benefited the sound before.

I don't have Tera until now
I have AK 100 and I am waiting AK 120
My studio V 3 edition I keep with me
Yes it is the intruder can improve SQ from your studio v 3rd edition , but not change the sound signature from your studio v 3rd edition.
With balance the intruder more shining than the single ended

 

[lee730]

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I don't have Tera until now
I have AK 100 and I am waiting AK 120
My studio V 3 edition I keep with me

Yes it is the intruder can improve SQ from your studio v 3rd edition , but not change the sound signature from your studio v 3rd edition.
With balance the intruder more shining than the single ended

The synergy with the 1Plus2 is crazy though. I sold the DX100 and RWA AK100 because they pair so good together . At least to my sound preferences . The intruder sounds interesting.... Every amp I've tried the Studio V with has altered its sound signature for the worse....

 

[LCfiner]

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Just got mine in. I keep checking to make sure I really have something stuffed in my ears and the seal is right because these sound more like an open can than any IEM I have ever heard. These things are so good they defy my mind's logic of what they should sound like. Very impressive. 

 
Totally agreed, the soundstage and the precision of the imaging is very impressive. I've had these for over a week now and I'm still surprised by the sound.
 
I've had great clarity in IEMs before but never combined with such a sense of scale and satisfying bass impact/ bass detail. 

 

[cravenz]

Totally agreed, the soundstage and the precision of the imaging is very impressive. I've had these for over a week now and I'm still surprised by the sound.

I've had great clarity in IEMs before but never combined with such a sense of scale and satisfying bass impact/ bass detail. 

Which cable are you using?

 

[LCfiner]

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Which cable are you using?

 
Magnus 1 cable, which sounds the same as the tralucent silver cable once you volume match.
 
I noticed that in both this thread and the Fitear 334 thread, most of the talk these days is about cables, cables, cables. I guess a headphone must be really good no one has any reason left to pick apart the headphone sound and so they're stuck talking about cable differences.

 

[cravenz]

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Magnus 1 cable, which sounds the same as the tralucent silver cable once you volume match.
 
I noticed that in both this thread and the Fitear 334 thread, most of the talk these days is about cables, cables, cables. I guess a headphone must be really good no one has any reason left to pick apart the headphone sound and so they're stuck talking about cable differences.

 
Haha...to be fair, I've not been much of a big cable believer, but there are pretty obvious differences moving from the stock silver Tralucent cable to their recent upgrade cable (not the uber cable). 

 

[LCfiner]

I was thinking earlier about the 1plus2 and how it compares to other full size headphones I've used and I think I can say that it shares a similar sonic character to the TH900.
 
Not sure if anyone will think this is crazy or not. They both have somewhat elevated bass that happens to have low distortion and is very clear and detailed. They are a bit V-shaped in FR (but I think the 1plus2 is less V shaped in response than the TH900) and both have clear, sparkly treble without sounding sibilant at all to my ears. And, finally, they both have a surprisingly large soundstage - not something that one expects from a closed design or an IEM.
 
For reference, I've owned the LCD3, HD800, Stax O2, Koss ESP 950, Grado RS1 & PS500, Denon MD7000 (current) and Grado HP1000. I think the 1plus2 shares a bit more in common with the TH900 than the others. LCD3, Koss, Stax O2 are all notably darker to different extents. The new Grados have shouty mids and no sub bass plus lots of distortion down low. The HP1000 is more even in FR but lacks the bass kick. The MD7000 have a bit less resolution in the bass and the highs are a bit brighter. The HD800 have that little treble spike at 6K that can bug me on some songs. Plus it doesn't have the "fun" bass of some of the other cans.
 
On another note, I bought a used IE800 and will be comparing it to the 1plus2 in a week or so when it arrives and posting a bit about the two, if anyone is interested in some comparison notes. I was too curious about the Sennheiser to not try it.

 

[music_4321]

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Magnus 1 cable, which sounds the same as the tralucent silver cable once you volume match.
 
I noticed that in both this thread and the Fitear 334 thread, most of the talk these days is about cables, cables, cables. I guess a headphone must be really good no one has any reason left to pick apart the headphone sound and so they're stuck talking about cable differences.

 
Very true. In my 4.5 years on Head-fi, I've never seen so much discussion about cables in the IEMs forum as in the two threads you mention — I have always been, and remain to this day, very, VERY sceptical. When people start reporting such dramatic / discernible audible differences, I attribute that to several factors, but it's no use going over those here, specially since I don't have the 1p2 or the specific cables (in this case) people are here discussing.

It's quite refreshing—certainly in this thread—to see your take on these phones & cables.

 

[cravenz]

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Very true. In my 4.5 years on Head-fi, I've never seen so much discussion about cables in the IEMs forum as in the two threads you mention — I have always been, and remain to this day, very, VERY sceptical. When people start reporting such dramatic / discernible audible differences, I attribute that to several factors, but it's no use going over those here, specially since I don't have the 1p2 or the specific cables (in this case) people are here discussing.

It's quite refreshing—certainly in this thread—to see your take on these phones & cables.

 
I must admit, I've always been like you as well (the part in bold). But I think my experience with the cable upgrade etc, has made me open my eyes far more. But then also, I wouldn't impose my views on others either. Everyone likes different things etc, but I would say, give it a shot before closing the door on it, otherwise, the opinion of not believing in cable upgrades for example, wouldn't be "valid". 
 
It also depends on what cable upgrades we do etc. And whether the cost merits the change. That's another thing altogether. I still believe changing the IEM holds the biggest difference followed by other parts. 

 

[music_4321]

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I must admit, I've always been like you as well (the part in bold). But I think my experience with the cable upgrade etc, has made me open my eyes far more. But then also, I wouldn't impose my views on others either. Everyone likes different things etc, but I would say, give it a shot before closing the door on it, otherwise, the opinion of not believing in cable upgrades for example, wouldn't be "valid". 
 
It also depends on what cable upgrades we do etc. And whether the cost merits the change. That's another thing altogether. I still believe changing the IEM holds the biggest difference followed by other parts. 

 
If you notice (after the part of my post you highlighted), I said, "it's no use going over those here, specially since I don't have the 1p2 or the specific cables (in this case) people are here discussing", so while I remain VERY sceptical, I cannot say for certain that all of those 1p2 & TG334 cable believers are utterly wrong. BUT, BUT, my own limited experience with cables AND the countless posts I've seen of people describing those very same cables in quite a hyperbolic way…
 
...and don't get me started on the all too 'exciting' subject of burn-in... and now we also have cable burn-in!

 

[cravenz]

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If you notice (after the part of my post you highlighted), I said, "it's no use going over those here, specially since I don't have the 1p2 or the specific cables (in this case) people are here discussing", so while I remain VERY sceptical, I cannot say for certain that all of those 1p2 & TG334 cable believers are utterly wrong. BUT, BUT, my own limited experience with cables AND the countless posts I've seen of people describing those very same cables in quite a hyperbolic way…
 
...and don't get me started on the all too 'exciting' subject of burn-in... and now we also have cable burn-in!

 
I know...I didn't say I didn't read all that. I'm just stating my experience...geez.

 

[LCfiner]

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Very true. In my 4.5 years on Head-fi, I've never seen so much discussion about cables in the IEMs forum as in the two threads you mention — I have always been, and remain to this day, very, VERY sceptical. When people start reporting such dramatic / discernible audible differences, I attribute that to several factors, but it's no use going over those here, specially since I don't have the 1p2 or the specific cables (in this case) people are here discussing.

It's quite refreshing—certainly in this thread—to see your take on these phones & cables.

 
I appreciate your post as I definitely know I'm in the minority here in this particular thread regarding cables and sound.
 
Just a theory: I think that maybe one reason why the 1plus2 thread is so incredibly focussed on cable talk these days (more so than other IEM threads or the early days of this thread) is because the stock cable is so stiff and microphonic. If the ergonomics weren't quite so poor, there would be less incentive to try new cables.
 
And once a couple people on here start talking about new cables and say they hear an improvement, well, then it's a snowball effect and everyone is buying cables and comparing them. That's the head-fi way
 
But, if I'm to be fair, I've only heard the stock and my old Magnus cable. I never tried any of the others. And maybe they happen to have wild resistance differences and are affecting FR from some sources. who knows? (as an aside, that's one of the problems I have with lots of cable talk: Almost no one really does know (or cares to find out) about measured performance and there's so many variables with sources and ear fit that you never know how to interpret impressions)

 

[roy_jones]

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I was thinking earlier about the 1plus2 and how it compares to other full size headphones I've used and I think I can say that it shares a similar sonic character to the TH900.
 
Not sure if anyone will think this is crazy or not. They both have somewhat elevated bass that happens to have low distortion and is very clear and detailed. They are a bit V-shaped in FR (but I think the 1plus2 is less V shaped in response than the TH900) and both have clear, sparkly treble without sounding sibilant at all to my ears. And, finally, they both have a surprisingly large soundstage - not something that one expects from a closed design or an IEM.
 
For reference, I've owned the LCD3, HD800, Stax O2, Koss ESP 950, Grado RS1 & PS500, Denon MD7000 (current) and Grado HP1000. I think the 1plus2 shares a bit more in common with the TH900 than the others. LCD3, Koss, Stax O2 are all notably darker to different extents. The new Grados have shouty mids and no sub bass plus lots of distortion down low. The HP1000 is more even in FR but lacks the bass kick. The MD7000 have a bit less resolution in the bass and the highs are a bit brighter. The HD800 have that little treble spike at 6K that can bug me on some songs. Plus it doesn't have the "fun" bass of some of the other cans.
 
On another note, I bought a used IE800 and will be comparing it to the 1plus2 in a week or so when it arrives and posting a bit about the two, if anyone is interested in some comparison notes. I was too curious about the Sennheiser to not try it.

 
 
Really appreciate your post.  I think that the dynamic/BA hybrid may represent the qualitative change in quality in IEM's that many thought the active crossovers that JH innovated would provide. 
 
Now I just have to wait until a budget offering comes out that takes the tech down to a more affordable level for folks on a budget like myself. 
 
I always feared the IEM's that had a dynamic component would be poor at isolation, which is why I wrote them off as an option.