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The JVC HA-S500 thread. - Page 436

post #6526 of 8319
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But where on your ears! angry_face.gif

Right on me ears - where else to where on-ear headphones? I guess your question is wether they rest on  the back of my ears because you  can't do that with yours due to pain? It's like they Nietzsche said " What doesn't kill us makes us stronger" - I've had pain issues and my ears hurting like hell from my Razer Barracuda or my Brainwavz HM3 and I guess with time your ears can tolerate anything coz the s500 with stock pads is super comfy and I don't feel any discomfort now. It's like when you first start using tri-flanges with your iems and your ears feel like being raped and with time they get used to the abuse and can tolerate anything without issues. That's my theory LOL

post #6527 of 8319
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How do you guys wear them? I've been able to wear them foward off the back of my ears pain free for a few hours now, but I can't wear them on the back of my ears to help isolate. Dangit, I don't like wearing them like this. Also I'm the kind of person who will press them against my head as hard as I can just to improve isolation. I need to not hear the world!
 

 

 

Get IEMs if you really need to isolate.

And if you are pressing them hard against your ears, then

   you're not allowed  to complain that they hurt your ears....lol

post #6528 of 8319
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Originally Posted by Achmedisdead View Post

 

 

Get IEMs if you really need to isolate.

And if you are pressing them hard against your ears, then

   you're not allowed  to complain that they hurt your ears....lol

Well IEMs make it feel like my ear drums have ruptured (and I spent years wearing only IEMs, I'm not getting used to the feeling), and I haven't done that yet because I haven't been in a loud place. I just know it will hurt way more later on when I have to do that.

 

How do people get used to IEMs? its so painful, even years after the use of them...

post #6529 of 8319
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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

Well IEMs make it feel like my ear drums have ruptured (and I spent years wearing only IEMs, I'm not getting used to the feeling), and I haven't done that yet because I haven't been in a loud place. I just know it will hurt way more later on when I have to do that.

 

How do people get used to IEMs? its so painful, even years after the use of them...

I don't know....I can't use them either. 

post #6530 of 8319
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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

Well IEMs make it feel like my ear drums have ruptured (and I spent years wearing only IEMs, I'm not getting used to the feeling), and I haven't done that yet because I haven't been in a loud place. I just know it will hurt way more later on when I have to do that.

 

How do people get used to IEMs? its so painful, even years after the use of them...

That sounds weird. Are you sure you've used the right size tips for the iems you've had? Or that you weren't trying to shove them in your brain, which might have been the equivalent of you pressing the cups of the headphones to your ears? THere are some iems that requite deep insertion, which isn't everyone's cup of tea but there are a ton of iem which you can forget you're even wearing.

post #6531 of 8319
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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

Well IEMs make it feel like my ear drums have ruptured (and I spent years wearing only IEMs, I'm not getting used to the feeling), and I haven't done that yet because I haven't been in a loud place. I just know it will hurt way more later on when I have to do that.

How do people get used to IEMs? its so painful, even years after the use of them...

If that happened to me I'd be pretty alarmed. Pretty sure you need to go see a doctor about this, it's not the IEMs issue it's your ears.
post #6532 of 8319
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Originally Posted by Lifted Andreas View Post


If that happened to me I'd be pretty alarmed. Pretty sure you need to go see a doctor about this, it's not the IEMs issue it's your ears.

Well, might be just the tips. I've had friends with issues like that and they were always stuffing the iems with the biggest tips on them. Sometimes the smallest tips with a slightly deeper inserion are way less bothersome than bigger one you're trying to push in that small ear canal. And,of course, there are always foam tips to the rescue if the issues remain.

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I've never actually used a deep insertion IEM, which I assume is much worse. Non of the shallow insertion IEMs I ever buy isolate enough with the smaller tips. They're slightly better in comfort, though. I'd rather deal with ear rupturing pain then listen to people talk, though, which is even more painful to me. I should probably visit a doctor about that more then about the IEMs. I'm weird confused_face.gif

 

Edit: I seem to freak out in my posts everytime IEMs are brought up. That might be a problem XD

 

 

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Sometimes the smallest tips with a slightly deeper insertion are way less bothersome than bigger one you're trying to push in that small ear canal.

Really? I might go buy some cheaper Ety's, then...


Edited by daleb - 5/24/13 at 1:43pm
post #6534 of 8319
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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

I've never actually used a deep insertion IEM, which I assume is much worse. Non of the shallow insertion IEMs I ever buy isolate enough with the smaller tips. They're slightly better in comfort, though. I'd rather deal with ear rupturing pain then listen to people talk, though, which is even more painful to me. I'm weird confused_face.gif

Well, I'm guess that's the issue - you're trying to achieve higher isolation than the iem or headphones you're using can provide. In the first case probably by trying to shove in bigger tips in your ears and in the second case by pressing the cups of the headphone to your ears. I guess you assume deeper insertion will be worse but it might be just the thing for you coz you won't be shoving it deep with big tips. May I suggest grabbing an ety or something in that line and putting on some foam tips.

post #6535 of 8319
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

Well, might be just the tips. I've had friends with issues like that and they were always stuffing the iems with the biggest tips on them. Sometimes the smallest tips with a slightly deeper inserion are way less bothersome than bigger one you're trying to push in that small ear canal. And,of course, there are always foam tips to the rescue if the issues remain.

Exactly mate!

This is the reason I general go for IEMs with decent aesthetics so they fit perfectly with deeper insertion.

Yamaha EPH100 or Zero Audio Carbo Tenore for example.
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But I cant give these up because they use carbon nanotubes, and I'll be working with carbon nanotubes in a lab everyday. I can get nerd cred with my boss and coworkers XD
 


Edited by daleb - 5/24/13 at 1:53pm
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Daleb, Get your ears checked.

A vibrating ear drum isn't something caused by an IEM, I have NEVER ever ever ever had the slightest pain from any IEM that fits my ears properly.

I actually think IEMS are more comfortable than over ears, I just don't enjoy the sound as much.

Just wear the headphones... How can you wear headphones differently? Is there a different way of riding bikes than I'm aware of? You leave me concerned every post :(


 

post #6538 of 8319
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But I cant give these up because they use carbon nanotubes, and I'll be working with carbon nanotubes in a lab everyday. I can get nerd cred with my boss and coworkers XD

 

There are plenty of IEMs that use carbon nanotubes lol
post #6539 of 8319
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Originally Posted by daleb View Post

But I cant give these up because they use carbon nanotubes, and I'll be working with carbon nanotubes in a lab everyday. I can get nerd cred with my boss and coworkers XD
 

Well then you either should opt for the HM5 pads or the old fashioned way - with pain and gain - you wear them till it's unbearable and take a break, rinse and repeat and sooner or later you'll be like "What? I can't hear you. Oh, sorry, I forgot I'm still wearing my headphones." biggrin.gif 

post #6540 of 8319
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Originally Posted by chib View Post

Daleb, Get your ears checked.

A vibrating ear drum isn't something caused by an IEM, I have NEVER ever ever ever had the slightest pain from any IEM that fits my ears properly.

I actually think IEMS are more comfortable than over ears, I just don't enjoy the sound as much.

Just wear the headphones... How can you wear headphones differently? Is there a different way of riding bikes than I'm aware of? You leave me concerned every post :(


 

That's the problem, I've never had an IEM fit my small ear canals properly. They always add tons of pressure to the sides of my ears, and they always put tons of air pressure on my ears. They just don't make them small enough for me (then again I've only bought 3 different IEMs over the years I used them and all below $20). Its when I take them out that makes it even way more uncomfortable, though. All the air pressure has to equalize and push and pull on the ear drums. All these problems are probably gone higher end deep insertion IEMs, but I have a huge fear of IEms after the years I spent with them.

 

There are 2 ways to wear these on ears. One would be to make it so it doesn't touch the end tip of the ear, at the very back. still completely on the ear, but it doesn't apply as much pressure to the back of the ear this way. This way is pretty comfy with these, and I could wear it like this for 2 to 3 hours.

 

The other way is to make it hang off the back of the ear so it covers every single bit of the ear (I might have small ears, too?) and applies pressure by itself. This way is how I want to wear it because it isolates way more, but its so much more painful because of all the pressure it applies. I thought these headphones would swivel back some to make it work, but they don't, and so its pretty painful.

 

For some reason I can't hear a difference in sound, either, so that's nice. I'll probably update my review soon to up the comfort, but then point out the lack of isolation this way. These go up from 4/5 to 4.5/5 this way. I really like them find these lovely.

 

And there's lots of ways to ride bikes!


Edited by daleb - 5/24/13 at 2:16pm
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