Sep 1, 2012 at 11:20 AM Post #91 of 2,874
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I don't have Paradox or Mad Dogs. I would be pleased to measure and include the data if anyone is willing to loan their TP1, Mad Dog, and Paradox to me.  I'll pay shipping both ways.
 
I'll add my measurements of my LCD2 v.1 to the database. I used the same exact measurement chain and methodology that I used for the incremental measurements. You can then compare my LCD2 measurement vs Tyll's/purrin's LCD2 v.1 measurement, do the math to calculate an "offset," and have a "pretty good" idea how my incremental mods might measure through theirs setups. 
 
This offset adjustment process is not required, though, to make use of the incremental mod database "as is."  The first measurement I posted to the database is "All Stock" which is the baseline. Compare all graphs relative to one another and against the baseline graph.

Bump. I will pay shipping both ways.
 
Sep 3, 2012 at 11:50 AM Post #92 of 2,874
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Thank you for the replay!!!
 
It seems a little bit strange that the N. 9 waterfall (that don't use damping material) is faster than the following (that uses damping material).
 
What do you think about=?????
 
;-)

Bump!! Any news about waterfall???
 
My cans arrived in Italy today....
 
I was thinkink to attach a bigger plate to the external side of the baffle (N° 12 part). In this way I could use bigger custom pads that don't touch my ears and rests directly to my head. What do you think about??
 
Anyone built a twin driver cans??? (Two for each side, one in high position and one in lower position, not rotated as stock T50rp). Impedance should be 25 ohm (parallel) or 100 ohm (series).
 
PS Thank you for the detailed specs of the materials used for modding !!!!
 
Sep 3, 2012 at 9:24 PM Post #94 of 2,874
Maybe you just got used to the inaccurate cans thinking they were accurate preproman. This reminds me of people thinking k701s are neutral. Anyways here are some graphs to compare the Paradox(top pic) and the AD2000 (Bottom)
 

 
 

 
Sep 3, 2012 at 9:31 PM Post #95 of 2,874
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Maybe you just got used to the inaccurate cans thinking they were accurate preproman. This reminds me of people thinking k701s are neutral. Anyways here are some graphs to compare the Paradox(top pic) and the AD2000 (Bottom)
 

 
 

 
 
Wow the Paradox does measure great.  
 
Sorry donunus I'm not a graph guy.  I just let my ears do the talking.  I'm not saying that your graphs are not correct.  I just don't go by them.  
 
You know you also may get different results from different amps, also one being open and the other closed.  I don't know This is a question.
 
Don't get me wrong I really do enjoy the Paradox.  So if your graphs say that's what they measure, then I guess that's what they measure.  
 
Sep 3, 2012 at 10:47 PM Post #96 of 2,874
I owned the ad2000 before and i wouldn't say they were neutral since I found the upper mids/highs to be boosted like I see it on the graph is basically what I was getting at. I don't hear that kind of pronounced highs when I listen to live instruments playing in a good sounding concert venue.
 
Sep 4, 2012 at 7:15 AM Post #97 of 2,874
Well I never used the word neutral - or did I?  I try to stay clear of that word, it can get tricky.  All I was trying to say was the BMFs remind me of the AD2K and the HD800s "some what" not identical but "some what".  
 
Sep 4, 2012 at 7:59 AM Post #99 of 2,874
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more or less yeah I just replied based on the gist of your post :) accurate=neutral by the way

 
 
Ahhh - I say tomato you say tomatoo.  Get it.  
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When I use accurate I'm talking accurate instruments - not neutral sounding.  Oh well.  That's why we love this hobby.
 
Sep 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM Post #100 of 2,874
ahh yes accurate sounding instruments are usually described as having good timbre but when it all comes together then it becomes perfectly neutral and natural all at the same time like we hear things in real life
 
Sep 4, 2012 at 8:10 AM Post #102 of 2,874
I haven't heard the Paradox yet by the way but when I do I will post my comments here. Just so you know how i feel about headphones..... No headphone I have heard (check my profile) has sounded as natural as good speakers yet so i am still looking forward to the day that they do.
 
Sep 4, 2012 at 8:36 AM Post #104 of 2,874
No i am not a graph first guy. I've just been reading these things for a while and have noticed that with all the headphones I have owned/heard that the site where these graphs are from make perfect sense with exactly what I hear with every one of them. Add me on FB here are the pictures of most of what I've owned. feel free to ask questions... https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150262037479900.338214.592879899&type=3
 

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