AudioQuest Dragonfly Review : Affordable, Outstanding, Tiny DAC / Amp
Jul 21, 2015 at 9:49 AM Post #2,131 of 2,514
After a few days with it, it has accomplished every single expectation I had on it. It sounds clean, detailed, has a good dynamic range, deep and tight bass...
With M50x and a buddy's DT770Pro 250, it seems like it reaches the point of diminishing returns for these headphones and that it might still have hidden potential.
 
Jul 21, 2015 at 11:36 PM Post #2,132 of 2,514
  After a few days with it, it has accomplished every single expectation I had on it. It sounds clean, detailed, has a good dynamic range, deep and tight bass...
With M50x and a buddy's DT770Pro 250, it seems like it reaches the point of diminishing returns for these headphones and that it might still have hidden potential.

 
Plug it into an external amp and watch how far it punches above its weight.
 
Jul 22, 2015 at 5:13 AM Post #2,133 of 2,514
   
Plug it into an external amp and watch how far it punches above its weight.

I'd have though it doesn't need an amp at all with the M50x... (The 770 does need more juice, but the SPL it gets with the DF is more than enough)
And about the SPL, how the hell do volume steps work with the DF? In theory, reference level should be reached at -15dB with the M50x, and that'd be 37% of max in Windows, (Which I'm using for testing) but that doesn't sound anywhere near reference level, and I want to calculate my RMS. (It seems like the steps do not go by proportional or something)
 
Jul 28, 2015 at 4:08 AM Post #2,134 of 2,514
Hey guys, i have hd600, dt990pro and o2 amp. I am considering dragonfly v1.2 and schiit bifrost for my laptop dac. Can't decide which one I should buy. Anyone Have any idea? And have to mention that my laptop soundcard is really bad!!
 
Aug 7, 2015 at 1:35 AM Post #2,135 of 2,514
Thank you google. Your fix for the chrome just come in time. Just got my dragonfly 1.2 and found that there were 2 issues on Ubuntu and Chrome. First one is a pulseaudio config file tweak and second is this chrome browser compatibility issue with 24 bit, which has been fixed in their lasted 46 development version.
 
Quoted from their code review:
Dylan Reid
Jul 27 8:16 PM

Patch Set 4: Code-Review+2
Thanks, this is going to make a lot of dragonfly owners happy.
 
 


https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/#/c/288253/
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=437836
 
Aug 7, 2015 at 1:17 PM Post #2,136 of 2,514
If you guys want to take your DragonFly to the next level, you have to check out this little bugger: http://www.head-fi.org/t/777003/review-of-audioquest-jitterbug-usb-data-power-noise-filter
 

 
Aug 9, 2015 at 1:12 PM Post #2,137 of 2,514
Hey guys, i have hd600, dt990pro and o2 amp. I am considering dragonfly v1.2 and schiit bifrost for my laptop dac. Can't decide which one I should buy. Anyone Have any idea? And have to mention that my laptop soundcard is really bad!!

I like the Dragonfly for a small portable, but the non-portable Bifrost is much better in absolute terms.  IMO.
 
Aug 17, 2015 at 5:36 PM Post #2,139 of 2,514
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  If you guys want to take your DragonFly to the next level, you have to check out this little bugger: http://www.head-fi.org/t/777003/review-of-audioquest-jitterbug-usb-data-power-noise-filter
 

I don't kow what I like more between the dragonfly or the Lenovo :p
 
Sep 28, 2015 at 1:41 PM Post #2,140 of 2,514
Just picked up a Cozoy Astrapi and an AudioQuest Dragonfly (v1.2) to try out. Been testing with the following:
 
Sources: MacBook Air, iPhone 6, iPhone 6S, iPad mini 2
Headphones: PSB M4U1, Etymotic ER-4S (IEM)
Music: Spotify 320k streaming, FLAC files played via FLAC+ on iPhone/iPad (24/96), ALAC files played via iTunes on MacBook Air (24/96)
 
In all cases, Astrapi sounds better than Dragonfly to my ears. More importantly ... 
 
Also in all cases, the very minimal increase in sound quality is not worth the additional cost and hassle of using either device. 
 
Just my $0.02, and subject to the limitations of how I listen to music, but figured I'd share
 
Sep 28, 2015 at 7:46 PM Post #2,141 of 2,514
  Just picked up a Cozoy Astrapi and an AudioQuest Dragonfly (v1.2) to try out. Been testing with the following:
 
Sources: MacBook Air, iPhone 6, iPhone 6S, iPad mini 2
Headphones: PSB M4U1, Etymotic ER-4S (IEM)
Music: Spotify 320k streaming, FLAC files played via FLAC+ on iPhone/iPad (24/96), ALAC files played via iTunes on MacBook Air (24/96)
 
In all cases, Astrapi sounds better than Dragonfly to my ears. More importantly ... 
 
Also in all cases, the very minimal increase in sound quality is not worth the additional cost and hassle of using either device. 
 
Just my $0.02, and subject to the limitations of how I listen to music, but figured I'd share


With all due respect, you claim you can hear enough of a difference between the two DACs to establish a preference, but yet you feel the increase in sound quality over on-board sound is "very minimal".  I find this less than convincing.
 
Sep 28, 2015 at 8:16 PM Post #2,142 of 2,514
Why less than convincing? And no disrespect taken.
 
Sep 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM Post #2,143 of 2,514
 
With all due respect, you claim you can hear enough of a difference between the two DACs to establish a preference, but yet you feel the increase in sound quality over on-board sound is "very minimal".  I find this less than convincing.


 I read the comment to mean that he hears a difference but not enough from EITHER device to justify buying the Firefly or the Cozoy.  That's a fair judgment.  I had the Firefly and thought it was better than the onboard sound, and worth it to me, but it wasn't a huge diff.
 
Sep 28, 2015 at 9:38 PM Post #2,144 of 2,514
 I read the comment to mean that he hears a difference but not enough from EITHER device to justify buying the Firefly or the Cozoy.  That's a fair judgment.  I had the Firefly and thought it was better than the onboard sound, and worth it to me, but it wasn't a huge diff.


That's exactly what I meant. Not saying there's no difference. Am saying that, to me with my gear and music, I preferred Cozoy to Dragonfly. Am also saying that to me, neither is worth keeping.
 
Sep 29, 2015 at 5:30 PM Post #2,145 of 2,514
 
 I read the comment to mean that he hears a difference but not enough from EITHER device to justify buying the Firefly or the Cozoy.  That's a fair judgment.  I had the Firefly and thought it was better than the onboard sound, and worth it to me, but it wasn't a huge diff.


That's exactly what I meant. Not saying there's no difference. Am saying that, to me with my gear and music, I preferred Cozoy to Dragonfly. Am also saying that to me, neither is worth keeping.

I think that jnorris's point is that it is very difficult to distinguish between two very good DACs by ear, and it is surprising that someone who can tell the difference between two very good DACs does not find the difference between both of them and a mediocre one significant. But maybe I misunderstood!
 

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