Hey Everyone,
 
  The other day I was skimming over blog posts at headphonia and Mikes review of the Sennheiser PX210BT caught my attention. He said not only did the new generation PX surpass its predecessors but he put it up against the M50s and HD 25II and he liked the new PX based on sound qualities alone!
but these are bluetooth?  After looking for info here on head fi I didn't find very much. a couple of threads. So I had to see for myself. Ordered.

The phone comes with a nice zipper case, usb charging cord, usb wall adapter, multiple country wall adapters for usb wall adapter nice!

Charging is straight forward (you can use while charging). The battery is supposed to last for 10 hours.  Pairing up with iphone was easy pleasey.
Simply press center play/pause button on control pad of PX for 5 secs. Blue crosshair will then alternate Blue-orange. Open Settings>General>Bluetooth>Sennheiser PX and it should sync up in about 10 secs. thats it! Now you have control over the usual volume skip ahead and back and play/pause.

Now the sound from these will surely impress most right off the bat. These have a weighty bass side with full rich forward mids and well extended laid back treble a la sennheiser. Good stage, depth, seperation, and nicely layered. A very big sound from such a dainty can. Very impressive.
As great as these sound it's the wirelessness that makes these special. Bluetooth is mature enough to work. Sennheiser has created the perfect ambassador to the wireless world in the PX series.As the PX100 for me was my entry into better sound The PX 210 is my entry into the 21st centry. Kinda like when I got my first iphone. This is the future now. These were announced Oct 2010 by the way. How come I never heard anything about these?.

there's some good news and bad news about these. The good is that they have a built in amp. the bad is that the 15 step volume needs another 15 steps more! My casual cruising volume with these is about 8. Cranking it cruising at about 14. but no more headroom. So may not get loud enough for some.  
 
  Out in the field these performed perfectly with me being able to control iphone from right driver and never having to reach in my pocket for iphone. I now don't have to worry about snagging, catching, pulling at whatever with a wire.  I think golfing and music is now a possiblility
 
  These have already changed my opinion of wireless gear and the realization of the freedom I now have while listening to my music is a newfound joy. If you are looking for a good portable and you have a bluetooth capable source then do yourself a favor and get rid of the wire. Listen like we should without a leash. These new PXs showcase the coming revolution. you really have to experience it to understand it completely. For 150 and less I can't think of a better recommendation.
 
But for a more detailed explanation and comparison read the original thread
http://www.headfonia.com/sennheiser-px210bt/

Nice write up. I have to admit I am curious to hear these. From what Mike at Headfonia says these sound like they can compete with wired headphones for the price.
 
One question how far can you walk away from your source and have full on music happening.?

dsnuts said:

Nice write up. I have to admit I am curious to hear these. From what Mike at Headfonia says these sound like they can compete with wired headphones for the price.

One question how far can you walk away from your source and have full on music happening.?

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Thank you D
Yes I will say these will beat on my M50s chase the bass on my D2000s and simply crush all my other portables (PX100,PX100II,HD238,K518,HFI-15G,K430,K420,Q460,ES-55,WS-55, Image One)! These will even give my beloved K181 DJs an early retirement. The bass on these is bigger than I would have ever imagined. The funny thing is these are so tiny. It's hard to believe so much sound comes from these little guys. So light and comfy. The cushions are like a Hostess mini donut cut in half and placed on each driver. Sennheiser really hit a home run with these and no one knows about them. Ya bettah wear a helmet cause des are gonna blow yo mind!

I can put my iPad on my kitchen counter and cook in the kitchen clean my room and go to the bathroom without being tethered. I read Bluetooth has a range of about 50'? I can get about 30' indoors through walls with no loss of quality. If you reach the limits it'll drop out but won't get static like. It's actually more range than I need from my phone. My friends with Bluetooth say they've left their phones on previous machines while at the gym and were still listening to their music.

Hmm a fresh thread on the subject ^^ me gusta.
 
I have some cranky old in-ear MX560 which have the annoying problem to not fit my ear as I wish they would. Anyway they are already many years old but
still use them to hear music from my HTC wildfire.
 
At home I use the RS180 which is simply the best home wireless cans I ever tried. The sound is awesome, I can walk everywhere in the house across closed
doors with no signal loss. Once I even went out with the garbage and I found myself listening pure and great in the middle of the street. Awesome experience there.
And if you would ask me on which kind of power they run I say they must use air cause I tak'em up and put'em down without having to think on battery issues.
 
So I am totally addicted to Sennheiser's sound quality and comfortableness together... with wireless.
 
However... now I am getting the new iPad and my good ol MX560 are not up to the task specially because of the wire.
 
I am more and more a quality+comfortableness+cordless hunter so you nailed some bullet points in this thread which I thank you for.
 
However I am rather curious on how they feel in the head. I always prefer the most balance between weight on top of the head and strength on the ears (like the RS180 for example, I can seriously forget I am using them). Also I never used on-ear headphones (lol?), only in-ear or around-the-ear. How is it to listen to other sounds on the street? I would love if I could listen well (so I can walk around and hear people calling me or a car honking) but not leak sound.
 
I first looked at the MM 100 cause the neckband looked even more comfortable then a over-the-head band and reviews seemed great except that they claimed it to leak sound as if they were just speakers... I would hate this of course, I don't want to leak sound... me want to eats it all! (and spare whomever is around me).
 
Look forward to hear more particularly on these three subjects: noise canceling (I would rather listen to other sounds as this would be for outdoors), sound leakage and comfortableness.
 
Thanks in advance!!!

hey Morunas,

Mike at Headfonoa liked the RS180s alot! The PX210s are nice and light like the PX 100s but have a bit more clamping. if i understan you then these are perfectly balanced from top to bottom on head. These don't fall off when I lie down or bend over to tie shoe for example. the isolation is good but not great. volume will nullify any incoming sounds.

Thanks for the quick reply
 
I will probably go for the PX210BT over the MM100 for the fact that they seem more durable and probably slightly less annoying to the ears since the MM100
keep the neckband passing behind the ear. I only used neckband headphones once (cant remember which) and I did find the band annoying between the ear
and the head. The price difference is almost none so... I guess PX210BT is the winner
 
However... I hope I do not have to use a dongle on the iPad to get it working... I hate dongles... checking on that now.
 
Thanks a lot for the info
 

morunas said:

Thanks for the quick reply


I will probably go for the PX210BT over the MM100 for the fact that they seem more durable and probably slightly less annoying to the ears since the MM100

keep the neckband passing behind the ear. I only used neckband headphones once (cant remember which) and I did find the band annoying between the ear

and the head. The price difference is almost none so... I guess PX210BT is the winner


However... I hope I do not have to use a dongle on the iPad to get it working... I hate dongles... checking on that now.


Thanks a lot for the info

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the Sennheiser dongle isn't necessary. I'm using my iphone direct without the apt-x codec and it still sounds like an M50 killer.

Ahhhh grrr I need a dongle to get better sound quality?!?!?! Hmmm well probably the sound quality beats the MM100 anyway.
 
Are you using it with any dongle?
 
Cheers!

In this article here they say the dongle for the codec improves the sound noticeably... the price would not be the issue but the "thing" coming out of the ipad would give me shivers xD think I will do it without then if the sound quality bugs me just enough I will try the dongle. Thanks again!

i'm listening to it regular bluetooth and I'm totally satisfied. I'll try it out someday but for now I'm busy dancing around.

Ok so I set up my iPad with USB out into my E7s DAC for the line out to directly feed my 210s internal amp. Going between wireless and directly wired with the included 2.5>3.5 cable. ( forgot to mention you can use these directly wired) anyway going between wired and standard bluetooth wireless yielded neglible audible difference that I could sense. This is without the apt-x codec.

Edit: perhaps I was a bit hasty when there were no audible differences. Upon further listening I found the stage to be a bit larger with the wire and I wanna keep saying the treble was a pinch airier but could these be attributed to the DAC on the E7? The Bluetooth sounded just a bit quainter but for the most part pretty similar.

The differences in sound quiality when using a Senn BT transmitter, which supports apt-X, are not subtle. However, if these phones are primarily used while out and about, the BT transmitter is not really necessary; in a quiet environment, it does make a difference.

music_4321 said:

The differences in sound quiality when using a Senn BT transmitter

, which supports apt-X, are not subtle. However, if these phones are primarily used while out and about, the BT transmitter is not really necessary; in a quiet environment, it does make a difference.

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Thanks. good to know. I'll have to find an apt x capable device and see.

Btw any idea how the sound of the PX210BT matches against Plantronics BackBeat 903+???
 
They seem really comfy and occupy even less space not to mention not having to have a headband which is sometimes annoying with hoods and hats and such (Denmark here... lots of snow and rain...)

morunas said:

Btw any idea how the sound of the PX210BT matches against Plantronics BackBeat 903+???

They seem really comfy and occupy even less space not to mention not having to have a headband which is sometimes annoying with hoods and hats and such (Denmark here... lots of snow and rain...)

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Sorry Morunas no idea on the plantronics backbeats. But the 210s are worth the price of admission.