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[Review] Meelectronics A161p, the most satisfying IEM I've ever heard

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I would like to thank Mike at Meelectronics for the review sample of their new flagship IEM the A161p. These are currently available for pre-order on Meelectronics website for $99.99, with the first batch shipping in a little over a week.

Pros: Excellent balance and clarity, good selection of tips, mic is clear
Cons: The cables to each IEM feels a bit thin, no volume control on remote, soundstage

Sources

Portable - iPod Classic
Home - iBasso D4 -> JDS Labs O2

Packaging

 

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The A161p is Meelectronics new flagship IEM so it didn't come as a surprise to me when the A161p arrived in an elegantly designed package that screams class. The box is covered by a thin sleeve which gives pretty much every bit of information you need to know about the A161p. The front shows the A161p with the remote/mic with a golden city background with the logo on top and the model on the bottom. I'm not usually a fan of gold, but the black and gold are really working here for me, it catches my eye without being gaudy. One side of the sleeve has the list of accessories while the other side has keywords that Meelectronics feel best describe the A161p. The back of the sleeve shows a frequency response chart and some more information about the headphones.

The sleeve slides off to expose a black box with minimal text with a book like magnetic opening on the right side. Once opened the inside of the box has a golden picture of a concert with some more keywords that Meelectronics feels best describes the A161p. The IEMs are seated safely in a velour coated plastic casing with a semi-hard clamshell case housing the accessories. Under the case is an informative user manual covering how to insert the IEMs, what the accessories are for, and other information that will be useful to those new to IEMs.

Speaking of the accessories, the A161p come with 3 sets of mushroom tips (S/M/L), 1 set of double-flanged tips, 2 pairs of triple flanged tips, cable guides, TRRS adaptor, headset to PC adaptor (to use this as a mic on your computer), a shirt clip, and the clamshell case I mentioned. I honestly can’t think of anything else I could want with IEMs, the amount of tips in various styles is a nice touch and should make everyone happy.

Other companies should take note of how to package an IEM from Meelectronics, it's not often that a company treats its IEMs with a VIP packaging like this, DUNU is one of the few other companies that comes to mind. The packaging gives a luxurious feel, which certainly adds to the user experience. This is a huge step up from past IEMs from Meelectronics such as their CC51 and A151, great job!

Design and Build Quality

 

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I just gloated about how well the packaging was done and Meelectronics made sure to carry that elegance to the design of the IEM. The A161p are primarily black with an accent of gold starting at the half of the barrel and going through to the nozzle. An Meelectronics logo is stamped on the black half of the barrel. The nozzle is angled, rather than straight, which is a plus for me as the contour of the nozzle makes it easier for me to insert without the barrel rubbing my ear. The filter is an integrated metal mesh filter, and this is something that actually bothers me a bit. Apple may not have much going on for itself in the audio world, but they certainly had their design right with unscrewable metal filters. This allows for easy cleaning of them, certainly adding to the durability of an IEM. Still this is a feature I rarely see in IEMs, I just hope it starts becoming popular as I love the idea of it, hopefully Meelectronics can work this into future IEMs.

The stress relief has a left or right indicator on each and is long and semi-flexible, which is a good thing since the cables coming from them are rather thin and are my biggest worry about the A161p. The remote/mic is plastic, but doesn’t feel as it’s going to fall apart, though it doesn’t have a volume control. Still the remote works well and I never had a problem using it to control my iPod, very fluid. A cinch sits on top of the y-split and is stamped A161p in grey. A shirt clip sits below the y-split where the cables join together, feeling much more durable now, to meet a 45 degree angled 3.5mm plug.

The build quality seems solid overall, the housing is a 50/50 mix of plastic on the black part to metal on the gold and feels sturdy. In-fact everything about the A161p seems solid, except for my concerns about the thin wire going to the housings. I’ve been putting these through their paces though for the past two weeks and they’re holding up well. I do hope Meelectronics considers looking into screw off mesh filters though.

As for fit, the A161p sit semi-deep in the ear blocking out a decent amount of noise with no music playing, but when the music is on at a reasonable level I can not hear anything but the music, putting aside very loud sounds. Comfort-wise the A161p are middle of the road, and putting them in is a bit of a pain for me as I have to move them around a bit before getting an optimal sound.

Nothing about the build will blow you away, these don’t have the incredibly sturdy feeling of the DUNU Ares, but I imagine these holding up rather well to abuse. These look sharp though and I’ve had a few people compliment their looks already, very stylish and elegant!

Sound Quality

I gave these 100 hours of listening time and about 20 hours of playtime when not wearing them before I formed an opinion on the sound. I made sure to try these unamped through my iPod Classic, as well as through my desktop set-up with a variety of tips from Comply to the triple-flanged tips included. I decided on the included mushroom tips over anything else.

The A161p are being marketed by Meelectronics as neutral reference quality IEMs using balanced armature drivers. The keywords that they’re using are clarity, accuracy, and detail. On the inside of the box Meelectronics explains what each word means to them, let’s take a look. Meelectronics defines detail as “fine musical nuances,” accuracy as “faithfulness to the original recording” and clarity as “purity and intelligibility of sound.” Do the A161p live of the these keywords Meelectronics has associated with them? I would say so, the A161p are the most satisfying IEM I’ve ever heard providing a clear neutral listening experience that has the musicality to match.

The packaging of the A161p shows a frequency response highlighting ruler flat bass response, which is something many audiophiles consider necessary in their headphones. I’ve put the A161p through its paces bass-wise from the quick sub-bass presented in James Blake’s Limit to Your Love to the thick bass in Sigur Ros’ Svefn-g-englar and am highly satisfied. The bass is completely flat to my ears, the sub-bass is just as accurately represented as the mid-bass in my experiences. The flat presentation of the bass gives an accurate representation of what the band intended you to hear, any coloration to the bass is simply how the artist wanted you to hear it. With that said the bass can feel a bit thin at times, with the DUNU Hephaes I could “feel” the bass, whereas here I’m simply observing it. That’s not to say it’s a bad thing, it’s just that those who listen primarily to bass centric music may want to avoid these. Thus said, I’ve greatly enjoyed the amount of bass for everything I’ve put through these from Flying Lotus to Incubus. This is the best bass in quality I’ve heard in an IEM thus far, detailed and textured, this will satisfy non-bassheads.

The mids are designed to sound life-like and balanced, and despite many claims by other companies about their natural mids, the A161p actually follow through with theirs. Vocals sound clean and natural, listening to John Mayer’s Neon and his voice can best be described as smooth and intimate. Female vocals fair well here as well, Sara Bareilles Come Round Soon and the A161p are able to present her powerful vocals well, especially during her long held note toward the end of the song which simply rings beautifully giving me chills. Some sibilance is heard in the mids, but it’s not a fault of the A161p, it’s simply a fault of the recording, Sara’s album Little Voice isn’t mastered well and sibilance comes through due to the fault of the album, the A161p simply expose it due to their mildly detailed nature. To touch upon the female vocals again, I’m currently listening to Florence + The Machine’s song Cosmic Love and the vocals are simply giving me chills, she has some amazing pipes and the A161p present them cleanly with no grain. What about instruments though? Guitars have their proper umph for heavier genres, and acoustic instruments resonate well, very life-like. I’m currently listening to Modest Mouse’s Life Like Weeds to get a feel for just how raw the A161p can present a guitar, this song has quite possibly the most raw and assertive guitar part I’ve ever heard and the A161p doesn’t disappoint, the guitar wails through as it should. Coming from my Audio Technica Ad2000 I was expecting to be disappointed with the mids, now these aren’t in the same league, but they do a damn good job. Good clarity and detail provide a great listening experience, though the mids seem a tad dry at times though I think it’s more of an issue of the A161p highlighting poor recording than the A161p’s presentation.

The highs are well extended with good clarity, I haven’t noticed any glaring grain that I can blame on the A161p. Taking a look at the highs I decided to put on some of my audiophile grade tracks. I first put on Pink Floyd’s Money from the De-Emphasized Black Triangle version of Dark Side of the Moon. I’ve had problems with headphones in the past coming off as shrill or incredibly grainy during the saxophone solo, I can proudly say that even during the highest frequencies I do not experience any grain, no clipping, the A161p handle these incredibly well which is a feat. Switching over to some fusion-jazz I put on Miles Davis’ song Pharoah’s Dance from his infamous album Bitches Brew. Miles Davis is one of the greatest trumpet players of all time, but do the A161p do his playing justice? The trumpet sound incredibly life-like and again there’s absolutely no grain despite some high frequencies being hit. The A161p’s treble is fantastic with just enough sparkle to highlight instruments that need it, without being bright or harsh.

The soundstage of the A161p is average at best, there’s decent depth and positioning and good space for instruments, but it doesn’t have the 3-D like sound I’ve become accustomed to with my Audio Technica Ad2000. At times the sound seems a bit flat, as if there’s a wall and everything sound is coming from a different part of it. This takes away some depth of the music, but the sound isn’t muddled and that’s important.

As I said earlier, the A161p are the most satisfying IEM I’ve ever listened to. The mildly warm neutral and well-balanced sound has good musicality to it and while these are detailed, they aren’t overly so completely exposing bad recordings, though poor recordings will be highlighted. Usually by this time I find something I dislike about the sound, but really the only thing I dislike about these is the fit. For the price these may be the best neutral, yet musical, IEMs around.

It’s obvious I am in-love with the A161p sound. The clarity is fantastic, they have enough detail to pick out anything you’d want to hear while maintaining musicality, and are well-extended on both ends of the spectrum so you’re not going to miss anything. The soundstage is a bit flat, but it gives the instruments the space it needs to breath despite the intimate setting. I do recommend an amp for the A161p though, listening from my iPod directly just doesn’t compare to the desktop set-up.

Conclusion


The IEM world is such a confusing place, there are hundreds of options under $100 and the number keeps growing. Why should you buy the A161p then? Because I have not encountered an IEM that does so much so well as the A161p. I have not found an IEM, especially in this price range, with the musicality, clarity, and balanced neutral sound that the A161p deliver. The excellent customer service Meelectronics provides is simply icing on the cake. Now I don’t want this to be all praise, I do hope that Meelectronics sees my issues, if they happened to miss it, here’s a summary: More durable feeling cable going to the IEMs, screw-on/off mesh filters for easy cleaning, and find a way to bring some depth to the soundstage as long as you don’t sacrifice the sound. I highly recommend these IEMs for anyone looking for a neutral and accurate sound, I don’t think you’re going to find better in the price range.

The A161p are currently on pre-order for $89.99 which is a steal, get on it!

 

Come see more pictures of the A161p here.

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Great review, this IEM has been on my radar since I heard about it. I've owned about 5-6 Meelec products in the past and have always been impressed by their packaging, design, and SQ. They really are one of the few companies that "gets it right". The only thing I saw lacking in the company was a truly higher-tier IEM worth more money, and from your review, it sounds like they finally reached that goal. Definitely gives a lot to think about in the $100 arena. I wonder how it compares to my current favorite, the Etymotic HF series.


Edited by soundstige - 5/15/12 at 10:35pm
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I've not heard the Etymotic's in the price range of this, but it seems that are a bit too lean on the bass and too analytical to enjoy actually listening to the music. The A161p manage to find a great balance between detail and musicality that most companies can't seem to. I didn't mention this in the review, maybe I did I've had a few beers, but when I first listened to the A161p I thought the MSRP was $200 and even then I was impressed, that says something.

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Great review, this IEM has been on my radar since I heard about it. I've owned about 5-6 Meelec products in the past and have always been impressed by their packaging, design, and SQ. They really are one of the few companies that "gets it right". The only thing I saw lacking in the company was a truly higher-tier IEM worth more money, and from your review, it sounds like they finally reached that goal. Definitely gives a lot to think about in the $100 arena. I wonder how it compares to my current favorite, the Etymotic HF series.


Nice Review, Wonder how this sounds up against the  Astrotec AM90?   Reviews say the Astrotec best the 151 easy...Looks like the build is better on the Astrotec as well..  $27 Vs. $90 is what has me wondering?, I'm cheap...LOL

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I've never heard of the Astrotec, but the A161p are only a successor in name, the sound isn't similar and the build/design is vastly different. 

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Originally Posted by keanex View Post

I've not heard the Etymotic's in the price range of this, but it seems that are a bit too lean on the bass and too analytical to enjoy actually listening to the music. The A161p manage to find a great balance between detail and musicality that most companies can't seem to. I didn't mention this in the review, maybe I did I've had a few beers, but when I first listened to the A161p I thought the MSRP was $200 and even then I was impressed, that says something.

I am often baffled as to how certain linear IEM are labeled as "analytical" or "lean". I'll personally describe the HF series as transparent with a hint of warmth, it's actually a fairly mid-centric sound. Yes, it does have less body than the A161 but it's also more detailed and transparent in the midrange because of it, musically is not lost as it's true to the source. HF series does lack in the treble and subbass department, though I will say overall bass presence is proper as long as you're not one that demands boosted bass. The A161 doesn't have a whole lot to envy the HF series though and it stands toe-to-toe with them which is a huge achievement in my view as the HF series is one of the benchmarks in terms of absolute performance in this price range. I see the Meelecs as more accessible and diverse though, stuff that I plan on covering in-depth in my review. 

 

Astrotecs I believe use the cheaper BK series drivers from Knowles which are much more limited to the EDs used on these. I don't see how the Astrotecs are assumed to have better build, as I have yet to hear hands-on impressions on it's cable which will be the deciding factor. Whether it's worth the price difference is up in the air, it's a very subjective thing. 

 

Nice write-up keanex, i'll surely add it to the appreciation thread. 


Edited by Inks - 5/15/12 at 11:30pm
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I am often baffled as to how certain linear IEM are labeled as "analytical" or "lean". I'll personally describe the HF series as transparent with a hint of warmth, it's actually a fairly mid-centric sound. Yes, it does have less body than the A161 but it's also more detailed and transparent in the midrange because of it, musically is not lost as it's true to the source. HF series does lack in the treble and subbass department, though I will say overall bass presence is proper as long as you're not one that demands boosted bass. The A161 doesn't have a whole lot to envy the HF series though and it stands toe-to-toe with them which is a huge achievement in my view as the HF series is one of the benchmarks in terms of absolute performance in this price range. I see the Meelecs as more accessible and diverse though, stuff that I plan on covering in-depth in my review. 

 

Astrotecs I believe use the cheaper BK series drivers from Knowles which are much more limited to the EDs used on these. I don't see how the Astrotecs are assumed to have better build, as I have yet to hear hands-on impressions on it's cable which will be the deciding factor. Whether it's worth the price difference is up in the air, it's a very subjective thing. 

 

Nice write-up keanex, i'll surely add it to the appreciation thread. 

 

Thanks for your opinions, it's nice to see someone else with the A161p as well. As for the things I've said about Etymotic's it's just heresy for me as I've not heard them so thanks for the comparison.

 

Also, please post a link to your review when you finish, I'd love to read it!


Edited by keanex - 5/16/12 at 6:51am
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Keanex, nice review!  If you want a comparison with the Ety ER-4P, probably the "analytical" benchmark earphone, send the A161P on to me for a couple of weeks and I can write up a comparison review.  The ER-4P is not as non-musical as many people label it -- you just need the right DAP and/or EQ, like the Cowon J3 with lots of great, clean EQ options to make the ER-4P sound perfect, IMO.

 

A couple of thoughts about the A161P: 

1) interesting that they chose their first BA earphone to be a mic/phone version -- it would seem they would want to establish it as a valid audiophile-level earphone, then later present a mic/phone version; 

2) completely agree with you about the screw on/off filter/screen -- it would be SO user friendly for more makers to take this approach, rather than make users buy their own propriertary filters (Ety, Phonak, etc), or cause us to improvise our own filters (I cut small pieces of hose to cover the ER-4P nozzle as i put on the 3-flange eartip!).

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A couple of thoughts about the A161P: 

1) interesting that they chose their first BA earphone to be a mic/phone version -- it would seem they would want to establish it as a valid audiophile-level earphone, then later present a mic/phone version; 

2) completely agree with you about the screw on/off filter/screen -- it would be SO user friendly for more makers to take this approach, rather than make users buy their own propriertary filters (Ety, Phonak, etc), or cause us to improvise our own filters (I cut small pieces of hose to cover the ER-4P nozzle as i put on the 3-flange eartip!).

 

1: I definitely see your opinion on this and agree with it. I talked with the rep and he explained it like this: " there were a lot of complaints about the lack of a mic on the A151 and the non-twisted cable of the A161 makes adding the mic easy." When it comes down to it, they're still just a small company trying to make a name for themselves, still the mic/remote works rather well. The mic has good clarity and worked well on a few calls I tried.

 

2: Indeed, the Apple Dual-Driver IEMs were my first venture into expensive IEMs and I thought their design was a standard, guess not!

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Detailed review with ample amount to pics to quench my visual senses.

 

3.5 mm jack looks sturdier. I'd probably be comparing it with RE-0 and other set of neutral earphones.

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The cables appear to be quite low quality for Meelec, which is very surprising, as that is usually one of the strong points of their products.

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Detailed review with ample amount to pics to quench my visual senses.

 

3.5 mm jack looks sturdier. I'd probably be comparing it with RE-0 and other set of neutral earphones.

 

The RE-0 I never liked, but from memory the A161p has far better bass in every way, the mids are fuller and just as clean, and the highs aren't as bright, but they extend well and are just as clean. 

 

 

 

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The cables appear to be quite low quality for Meelec, which is very surprising, as that is usually one of the strong points of their products.

 

 

I received an e-mail from Mike over at Meelectronics and this is what he had to say about the cables:

 

Oh and the cables were picked for the A161P because we decided that durability mattered over cosmetics. The cable is actually adapted from our discontinued RX11 model which – despite appearances – had the best track record in terms of reliability among all of our earphones. We actually had pre-production units of the A161 about 18 months ago at the 2011 CES but wanted to take the time to see how the RX11 cable performed out in the wild for a year.

 

Basically through testing they chose the sturdiest cables. 

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nice work!

how's isolation?

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Edited by what? - 5/17/12 at 7:30am
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The RE-0 I never liked, but from memory the A161p has far better bass in every way, the mids are fuller and just as clean, and the highs aren't as bright, but they extend well and are just as clean. 

 

Haven't made any comparisons yet but I can see that A161P is on musical side (with a touch of warmth) while RE-0 is a bit dry. Bass is more articulate and bigger in body. More impressions soon.

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