The FitEar CIEM Impressions Thread
Sep 16, 2015 at 5:31 AM Post #4,456 of 6,678
 


I remember I read somewhere that actually for the "burn-in" and "perfect-fit" effect that perceived by CIEM users are actually due to their brain got tuned to the sound of the CIEM and their ear shape being slightly changed to fit the shape of the CIEM. I don't have that article now. But I believe our body (e.g.our brain and ears) did somehow make changes to cope with outside changes.



Sure it is a common case - every brain gets used to the certain amount of some frequencies and it became natural for you.
Burn in myth of cables or any electronic device is a complete ******** and it is just the audiophiles in their forums talking endless threads on the matter. Nobody can pass the blind test anyway.
So yes - your brain gets used to certain frequency response of your headphones and over time it feels to you different, than for the first try. It happens very same with your eyes after use of any specific colour profile on your LCD / laptop.

This phenomenon can be actually very fast - in terms of minutes/hours.. not just days. When you spent some time in low light conditions, your eyes/brain became used to it and when you suddenly turn on all the lights = it hurts, brain was not prepared for this. When you are in a very loud environment like the big concert, or dance party - your ears / brain are trying to get used to the loud sound, so after couple of hours, when you leave the concert - you feel like you can't hear properly when you arrive to your quiet home.

Sorry no cable/headphone burn-in here :wink: it is just the very sophisticated human brain work.

Both of your examples are more or less got nothing to do with the brain but how your eyes and ears works. Retina let more light in in dark location, but it's not instantaneous. The Tympanic Reflex happening in the ear in the dance party example did that work in your example.
 
Sep 16, 2015 at 7:05 AM Post #4,457 of 6,678
Both of your examples are more or less got nothing to do with the brain but how your eyes and ears works. Retina let more light in in dark location, but it's not instantaneous. The Tympanic Reflex happening in the ear in the dance party example did that work in your example.


If you wear glasses that turn images upside down after awhile your brain flips the image right way up and then when you take those glasses of your brain things everything is upside down ...
 
Sep 16, 2015 at 8:41 AM Post #4,458 of 6,678
Had been listening to this pair for almost a day. Dunno why it sounds totally different from the demo that I tried before. 
 
 
                                                       
 
Sep 16, 2015 at 10:39 AM Post #4,459 of 6,678
Had been listening to this pair for almost a day. Dunno why it sounds totally different from the demo that I tried before. 

 

                                                       


Brand new CIEM?

I found the same problem with my MH334. Sounds totally different even side by side against a demo unit, I gave it some time on pink noise for it to settle down and also at least a week to get use to the fit first.
 
Sep 16, 2015 at 10:52 AM Post #4,460 of 6,678
  Had been listening to this pair for almost a day. Dunno why it sounds totally different from the demo that I tried before. 
 
 
                                                       

How are they different then?
 
Sep 16, 2015 at 11:08 AM Post #4,461 of 6,678
  How are they different then?

 
It's kind of hard for me to explain the different in detail. From what I heard, the one that just arrived had a more engaging high sector but less impact on the low sector. The demo unit also seems to be much darker than this one. 
 
Brand new CIEM?

I found the same problem with my MH334. Sounds totally different even side by side against a demo unit, I gave it some time on pink noise for it to settle down and also at least a week to get use to the fit first.

 
Yup, it's a brand new one. Gonna give it more time to get used to it.
 
Sep 16, 2015 at 11:46 AM Post #4,462 of 6,678
   
It's kind of hard for me to explain the different in detail. From what I heard, the one that just arrived had a more engaging high sector but less impact on the low sector. The demo unit also seems to be much darker than this one. 
 

Weird. Normally it should be the other way round.
 
Sep 16, 2015 at 8:31 PM Post #4,464 of 6,678
Just curious. How exactly did your ears change? Is it some natural phenomenon that occurs in all people (someone once told me that our nose and ears technically never stop growing throughout our lifespan) or did you just lose or gain a lot of weight recently?
It's because I got adult braces and it moved my jaw and thus changed my ear canal.
 
Sep 24, 2015 at 4:41 AM Post #4,465 of 6,678
Just so people know how Fitear will treat overseas customers if they have fit problems:
 
  1. I sent my MH335Dw for refit and they aknowledged reception on the 15th of March 2015
  2. I got them back from Fitear on the 18th of May (so 2 months for a refit). The fit was exactly the same, I am not even sure they reshelled
  3. I sent them back a while later because I wanted to test them for a bit and they received it on the 17th of July
  4. It is now the 24th of September, and the only answer Jaben can get from Fitear is : we do things in our own time (which can be interpreted as a very polite F?><> off with you requests)
 
I have been 6 months without my MH335DW. And Fitear does not give a crap or offer to find another solution. Even JH, who I have had issues with, was very understanding, always jumped me ahead of the queue for refits and is now sending me universals as a replacement.
 
I do not know if Suyama San reads this or even cares, but part of perfect service is respect.
 
And just so  you know, for every peace of information (or lack thereof) Jaben has to send Fitear 5 emails to even be ackowledged.
 
Sep 24, 2015 at 5:31 AM Post #4,468 of 6,678
They really should rectify that, the quailty of a product is not just the craftsmanship of the physical item when it suppose to come with after sale service. No matter how nicely built the FitEar CIEMs are, it won't change how a dissatisfied customer thinks when they can't even use it.

Best of luck to Mimouille getting your FitEar back with a good fit.
 
Sep 24, 2015 at 5:35 AM Post #4,469 of 6,678
They really should rectify that, the quailty of a product is not just the craftsmanship of the physical item when it suppose to come with after sale service. No matter how nicely built the FitEar CIEMs are, it won't change how a dissatisfied customer thinks when they can't even use it.

Best of luck to @Mimouille getting your FitEar back with a good fit.

I fully agree....and I have been quite patient. Thanks to you! What I am afraid of, is that if the fit is bad again, I will have no solution left.
 
Sep 24, 2015 at 5:56 AM Post #4,470 of 6,678
  Yes indeed, and I understand they do not want to manage overseas orders directly. But they could at least answer their distributors.

Agreed. The way they're doing things now make me feel like they are not only doing a disservice to their overseas customers - it also gives off the vibes that they are hurting their own distributors' reputation by making the customers think that the distributors have no reliable way to grasp a hold of the supplier.
 
Anyway, hope you'd have a good closure after all these ordeals. For me, not too long ago I had been entertained with the idea of getting a pair of their customs via Jaben - it's no longer looking like it'd be worth it anymore considering the costs and all the potential problems involved. Maybe it'd be when I take my residence in Japan, but for now the TG334! that I recently acquired is all that I need from Fitear (or perhaps another one of their universal models 
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