Hisoundaudio ROCOO BA - Superior Hi-Fi player for Ciem's & Iem's
Jul 28, 2013 at 5:33 AM Post #571 of 632
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35 seconds is very long, sir. My desktop operating system loads up faster.


35 seconds is not very long lol. Not for 2,500 songs. At least not IMO. Just means you are very impatient. My OS loads up in 16 seconds, what's your point? That a SSD which these DAPs do not use. :p Sounds like you are trolling more than anything else.
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Jul 28, 2013 at 5:37 AM Post #572 of 632
It means that this player uses inferior technology/software to every player I've ever had before and have now. Specifically, in that it has to go through some process of indexing with every start rather than just doing it once - properly. My Cowon D2 loaded up in seconds with the same amount of files and it was released 7(? 8?) years ago. (And that without having to jump through tag-deleting hoops!)
 
Your judgment of impatience notwithstanding, this is slow by any standard. 
 
Jul 28, 2013 at 5:38 AM Post #573 of 632
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I just tested my Rocco BA loaded with 32GB of FLAC files, it takes 20 seconds to load to the menu screen.

Count was started onwards from pressing the power button.


When I mention 35 seconds I'm referring to using a 64 GB card filled to capacity with FLAC filesn I'm pretty sure it's around 2,500 songs.
 
Jul 28, 2013 at 5:41 AM Post #574 of 632
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It means that this player uses inferior technology/software to every player I've ever had before and have now. Specifically, in that it has to go through some process of indexing with every start rather than just doing it once - properly. My Cowon D2 loaded up in seconds with the same amount of files and it was released 7(? 8?) years ago. (And that without having to jump through tag-deleting hoops!)
 
Your judgment of impatience notwithstanding, this is slow by any standard. 


No I think you're making a big deal out of nothing. My AK120 starts up in about the same amount of time although the key difference is it doesn't have to index the files. Just it has to load the firmware which does take a little time. Now if you do have a lot of files then yes it will become a problem. Someone had like 10,0000 files on their unit and it took like 5 minutes or so to start. That is not acceptable.
 
It's already been stated multiple times that the UI is not the selling point of these players (that was up to you to read). But the sound quality is. Cowons don't even touch these players in terms of sound quality. If you are just concerned with convenience and not audio quality then stick with an apple.
 
Jul 28, 2013 at 5:46 AM Post #575 of 632
It means that this player uses inferior technology/software to every player I've ever had before and have now. Specifically, in that it has to go through some process of indexing with every start rather than just doing it once - properly. My Cowon D2 loaded up in seconds with the same amount of files and it was released 7(? 8?) years ago. (And that without having to jump through tag-deleting hoops!)

Your judgment of impatience notwithstanding, this is slow by any standard. 


I think I'd much rather wait 20 seconds and be rewarded with SQ Rocco BA produces over the 'Cowon' D2 I owned. :wink:


When I mention 35 seconds I'm referring to using a 64 GB card filled to capacity with FLAC filesn I'm pretty sure it's around 2,500 songs.


Yes I know. :)
 
Jul 28, 2013 at 6:04 AM Post #576 of 632
So defensive. How cute.
 
Jul 28, 2013 at 7:15 AM Post #577 of 632
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It means that this player uses inferior technology/software to every player I've ever had before and have now. Specifically, in that it has to go through some process of indexing with every start rather than just doing it once - properly. My Cowon D2 loaded up in seconds with the same amount of files and it was released 7(? 8?) years ago. (And that without having to jump through tag-deleting hoops!)
 
Your judgment of impatience notwithstanding, this is slow by any standard. 

 
Well, my Cowon X9, with 32GB internal memory and a 32GB microsd holding a total of 59GB of tunes ( 7,170 at an avg. of 219kbps) just took 42 seconds to start up from being fully shut down (as opposed to just sleep mode). Not bad for having 3 weeks,. 5 days, and 15 hours worth of music on-hand. And it has twice the internal memory of the old D2.
 
I'm not posting this out of any devotion to the Rocoo player, which I have not used.....just posting to point you're being a bit impatient, as previously suggested. 
 
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I think I'd much rather wait 20 seconds and be rewarded with SQ Rocco BA produces over the 'Cowon' D2 I owned.
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Indeed, the old D2 had a rather muddy and dull sound unless you went nuts with the EQ...the newer models sound far better, both at flat settings, or with tweaks applied. 
 
Jul 28, 2013 at 7:53 AM Post #578 of 632
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Well, my Cowon X9, with 32GB internal memory and a 32GB microsd holding a total of 59GB of tunes ( 7,170 at an avg. of 219kbps) just took 42 seconds to start up from being fully shut down (as opposed to just sleep mode). Not bad for having 3 weeks,. 5 days, and 15 hours worth of music on-hand. And it has twice the internal memory of the old D2.
 

How long does it take to load if you shut it off now and start it again?
 
Jul 28, 2013 at 1:30 PM Post #579 of 632
Jul 29, 2013 at 6:11 AM Post #581 of 632
... yeah.
 
So anyway, has anyone tried updating their player with the recent firmware, released by the person who created the device - after acknowledging this issue - and that purportedly fixes/improves it?
 
Aug 1, 2013 at 5:33 AM Post #582 of 632
... yeah.

So anyway, has anyone tried updating their player with the recent firmware, released by the person who created the device - after acknowledging this issue - and that purportedly fixes/improves it?


I vote you should try the new firmware and report back to us. You're a head-fier you should give to the community more.
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Sep 23, 2013 at 12:40 PM Post #583 of 632
Kind of a random bump, but is any one interested in buying a Mint Rocoo BA? Or know anyone who would want to buy.
 
Not sure what these things are worth anymore. I tried selling mine last year but ended up keeping it because all I got were lowball offers (like $25-50 =.=), and some good offers from people outside of the US (but those deals didnt make sense due to high shipping costs ): )
 
EDIT: Its been sitting in my drawer for most of its life. I used it for 2-3 months, kept it in a soft pouch, but got tired of carrying an extra player around. Settled for just using my phone. Still has the box and all accessories.
 
Sep 24, 2013 at 9:00 PM Post #584 of 632
  Kind of a random bump, but is any one interested in buying a Mint Rocoo BA? Or know anyone who would want to buy.
 
Not sure what these things are worth anymore. I tried selling mine last year but ended up keeping it because all I got were lowball offers (like $25-50 =.=), and some good offers from people outside of the US (but those deals didnt make sense due to high shipping costs ): )
 
EDIT: Its been sitting in my drawer for most of its life. I used it for 2-3 months, kept it in a soft pouch, but got tired of carrying an extra player around. Settled for just using my phone. Still has the box and all accessories.

 
That's probably because of all the new audiophile DAPs that's been released. Rocoo BA doesn't really boast anything over DX50, X3, or AK100. But for how much would you consider selling your Rocoo BA for? Just kind of curious.
 
Sep 24, 2013 at 9:49 PM Post #585 of 632
That's probably because of all the new audiophile DAPs that's been released. Rocoo BA doesn't really boast anything over DX50, X3, or AK100. But for how much would you consider selling your Rocoo BA for? Just kind of curious.


Well from what I have read, I guess that all the players mentioned are good sounding daps and have rather different sound signature. So, I guess there will still be takers who want the kind of sound signature of the BA.
 

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