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post #7171 of 17046

I have completed the first version of the marleypads :D

 

 

 

The inspiration for these pads came from the jergpads. The balanced sound was amazing but I thought these pads could be even better with deeper pads. Having my ears so close to the driver resulted in a more intimate soundstage, and imaging of instruments wasn't as impressive.

 

So I took the velour pads and stitched leather over them :D

I also added some damping holes to reduce reverb, which wasn't really apparent but I thought it couldn't hurt.

 

First sound impression: They sound like the velours but more balanced. They still sound as dynamic, so bass is much more punchy than with the jergpads. But mostly imaging and soundstage is back, it is amazing.

 

The jergpads do sound more romantic though, however I like a more dynamic sound.

I'll open up a new thread where I'll write up a how-to marleypads in case anyone is interested in replicating this experiment.

 

p.s. When I say jergpads, I mean my implementation of the jergpads. Maybe I did something wrong? But I think most of the problems of the jergpads (smaller soundstage, slightly slower sound) are inherent problems of the pleather pads. They are less deep and softer.

Also major props to my girlfriend since she did all the stitching and pattern designing!

post #7172 of 17046
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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post


I've been hearing a lot of good stuff about that amp. Like how do you connect the headphone to this speaker amp?

 

Do you have any reference amps which you can compare it too? For example something like the E9?

How does it improve the sound?

 

Lot's of questions, I'm very interested in this amp :)

 

im using banana plugs to female trs jack.  cheapest and most versatile way to connect HPs to the amp


check out my last 4 comments in this thread

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/629352/hifiman-he-500-on-a-speaker-amp-emotiva-mini-x-a-100-project/675#post_9145842

 

the emotiva takes the he400 to their full potential IMO. 

post #7173 of 17046
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Originally Posted by mac336 View Post

 

im using banana plugs to female trs jack.  cheapest and most versatile way to connect HPs to the amp


check out my last 4 comments in this thread

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/629352/hifiman-he-500-on-a-speaker-amp-emotiva-mini-x-a-100-project/675#post_9145842

 

the emotiva takes the he400 to their full potential IMO. 


I think I'll get it :)

 

And if I ever buy passive speakers I can use this as an amp.

post #7174 of 17046
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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

I have completed the first version of the marleypads :D

 

First sound impression: They sound like the velours but more balanced. They still sound as dynamic, so bass is much more punchy than with the jergpads. But mostly imaging and soundstage is back, it is amazing.

 

The jergpads do sound more romantic though, however I like a more dynamic sound.

I'll open up a new thread where I'll write up a how-to marleypads in case anyone is interested in replicating this experiment.

 

p.s. When I say jergpads, I mean my implementation of the jergpads. Maybe I did something wrong? But I think most of the problems of the jergpads (smaller soundstage, slightly slower sound) are inherent problems of the pleather pads. They are less deep and softer.

Also major props to my girlfriend since she did all the stitching and pattern designing!

What is a more "romantic sound"? And what do you consider to be "dynamic sound"?

post #7175 of 17046
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Originally Posted by MrMateoHead View Post

What is a more "romantic sound"? And what do you consider to be "dynamic sound"?

Probably the amount of midrange bloom / emphasis. Pleathers / modded pleathers will always put the ears really close to the drivers, thus emphasizing the midrange, and pushing back the treble and bass quantity.

post #7176 of 17046
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Probably the amount of midrange bloom / emphasis. Pleathers / modded pleathers will always put the ears really close to the drivers, thus emphasizing the midrange, and pushing back the treble and bass quantity.

Yeah sort of, things sound is a bit slower and warmer on the jergpads. It's a little bit like the HD650.

 

With dynamic I mean more punch to the sound, specifically more punch in the bass.

 

The main differences between the jergpads and marleypads are the following: the marleypads seem to have better imaging, a bigger soundstage, tighter and punchier bass but the mids and treble are pretty much identical. I definitely like the marleypads better (biased much?) however some might like the jergpads more. It's much closer to the sound of the HD650.

 

The jergpads are still undefeated in terms of comfort. I did soak the velours in soapy water, which did make them a bit softer.

But I think that the hardness of the pads actually contributes to the dynamic sound of the velours.

post #7177 of 17046
Quote:
Originally Posted by mac336 View Post

 

im using banana plugs to female trs jack.  cheapest and most versatile way to connect HPs to the amp


check out my last 4 comments in this thread

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/629352/hifiman-he-500-on-a-speaker-amp-emotiva-mini-x-a-100-project/675#post_9145842

 

the emotiva takes the he400 to their full potential IMO. 

 

Ugh!  It looks like Comcast is cutting out the use of personal Web pages.  My "taps.PDF" is no longer loading.  But, here is the guide on the necessary cable to connect to a speaker amp:

 

 

post #7178 of 17046
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

I have completed the first version of the marleypads :D

 

 

 

The inspiration for these pads came from the jergpads. The balanced sound was amazing but I thought these pads could be even better with deeper pads. Having my ears so close to the driver resulted in a more intimate soundstage, and imaging of instruments wasn't as impressive.

 

So I took the velour pads and stitched leather over them :D

I also added some damping holes to reduce reverb, which wasn't really apparent but I thought it couldn't hurt.

 

First sound impression: They sound like the velours but more balanced. They still sound as dynamic, so bass is much more punchy than with the jergpads. But mostly imaging and soundstage is back, it is amazing.

 

The jergpads do sound more romantic though, however I like a more dynamic sound.

I'll open up a new thread where I'll write up a how-to marleypads in case anyone is interested in replicating this experiment.

 

p.s. When I say jergpads, I mean my implementation of the jergpads. Maybe I did something wrong? But I think most of the problems of the jergpads (smaller soundstage, slightly slower sound) are inherent problems of the pleather pads. They are less deep and softer.

Also major props to my girlfriend since she did all the stitching and pattern designing!

Hey! I would love to hear bout this mod..update us when u have it online if u can ok? Thanks!!

post #7179 of 17046
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

Yeah sort of, things sound is a bit slower and warmer on the jergpads. It's a little bit like the HD650.

 

With dynamic I mean more punch to the sound, specifically more punch in the bass.

 

The main differences between the jergpads and marleypads are the following: the marleypads seem to have better imaging, a bigger soundstage, tighter and punchier bass but the mids and treble are pretty much identical. I definitely like the marleypads better (biased much?) however some might like the jergpads more. It's much closer to the sound of the HD650.

 

The jergpads are still undefeated in terms of comfort. I did soak the velours in soapy water, which did make them a bit softer.

But I think that the hardness of the pads actually contributes to the dynamic sound of the velours.

Soapy water? Now i am confused..somewhere else a person states to wet the pads with just water..and then push the water out a couple of times and let it dry..but now u say soapy water? Guys..whats better???

post #7180 of 17046
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Soapy water? Now i am confused..somewhere else a person states to wet the pads with just water..and then push the water out a couple of times and let it dry..but now u say soapy water? Guys..whats better???


I actually thought the guy said to use soapy water before he said just water :p

 

The question is: How dirty is earpad? I don't think it matters much for the softness of the pad though.

post #7181 of 17046
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Hey! I would love to hear bout this mod..update us when u have it online if u can ok? Thanks!!


I'm writing it up tomorrow, it's currently 3:20 am so I should sleep...

post #7182 of 17046
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

Ugh!  It looks like Comcast is cutting out the use of personal Web pages.  My "taps.PDF" is no longer loading.  But, here is the guide on the necessary cable to connect to a speaker amp:




So you need to convert to xlr first and then to taps? You can't make a straight cable from trs to taps?
post #7183 of 17046
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Originally Posted by merkil View Post


So you need to convert to xlr first and then to taps? You can't make a straight cable from trs to taps?

 

You can't use a TRS (3 conductor) and mate it to the 4-pin XLR.  A speaker amp or receiver, can't (in most cases) operate with both ground (negative) signals connected together.  There are very few that will allow the ground to operate in such a manner.  Very few.  In fact, I'm not even sure on which ones to name, since I've only heard of a few pieces in passing.  Yet, 99% of all the other gear requires the use of 4 separate conductors (2 Positive, 2 Negative.)

post #7184 of 17046
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

 

You can't use a TRS (3 conductor) and mate it to the 4-pin XLR.  A speaker amp or receiver, can't (in most cases) operate with both ground (negative) signals connected together.  There are very few that will allow the ground to operate in such a manner.  Very few.  In fact, I'm not even sure on which ones to name, since I've only heard of a few pieces in passing.  Yet, 99% of all the other gear requires the use of 4 separate conductors (2 Positive, 2 Negative.)


You can with the emotiva.  the emotiva has separate grounds. 

post #7185 of 17046
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Originally Posted by mac336 View Post


You can with the emotiva.  the emotiva has separate grounds. 

 

Thanks for the clarification.  I knew there were a few, and yes, the Emotiva is one of them.

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