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**Hifiman HE-400 Impressions and Discussion Thread**
Dec 2, 2012 at 10:42 PM Post #2,717 of 22,116
Hi There!
 
If I had the budget are the HE-500's a better buy? I have a pair of HD650's and the HE-400's were said to be a complementry headphone with similar SQ but different emphasis. I am after a pair of exciting, comfortable and amazing SQ headphones to go with my HD650's. I have both a Bottlehead Crack Amp and an ODAC and O2 amp as drivers. BTW I strongly dislike sibilance.
 
Dec 2, 2012 at 10:44 PM Post #2,718 of 22,116
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networkn said:
Hi There!
 
If I had the budget are the HE-500's a better buy? I have a pair of HD650's and the HE-400's were said to be a complementry headphone with similar SQ but different emphasis. I am after a pair of exciting, comfortable and amazing SQ headphones to go with my HD650's. I have both a Bottlehead Crack Amp and an ODAC and O2 amp as drivers.
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Again, not an owner of that amp, but I hear the Bottlehead Crack isn't a good pairing with the HE-400. I think if you have the budget, HE-400 and a Schiit Lyr is the way to go. 
 
Dec 2, 2012 at 11:23 PM Post #2,719 of 22,116
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sniping said:
Again, not an owner of that amp, but I hear the Bottlehead Crack isn't a good pairing with the HE-400. I think if you have the budget, HE-400 and a Schiit Lyr is the way to go. 
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Hi There!
 
Well alternatives are the O2 Amp or the Amp built into the Asus Xonar STX, I am not buying a 4th amp to try these headphones :) 
 
Dec 3, 2012 at 1:16 AM Post #2,720 of 22,116
great review, thanks
 
Dec 3, 2012 at 1:20 AM Post #2,721 of 22,116
networkn said:
Hi There!
 
Well alternatives are the O2 Amp or the Amp built into the Asus Xonar STX, I am not buying a 4th amp to try these headphones :) 
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Why not see if there is going to be a local headphone meet near you, or if someone in the forum here lives somewhat close to you in order to try these out? It will be a lot cheaper for you to try them out in the suggested scenario, versus trying to properly pair them with one of your existing amps and then determine they are not the right headphones for you. You still will end up eating the shipping costs with that situation. However, if someone around you has a pair, provide a "goodwill offering" of a 6-pack of some tasty micro brew and make a fun event out of trying the headphones out for an hour or so to see if they are to your liking. :wink:
 
Dec 3, 2012 at 4:20 AM Post #2,722 of 22,116
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wje said:
 
Why not see if there is going to be a local headphone meet near you, or if someone in the forum here lives somewhat close to you in order to try these out? It will be a lot cheaper for you to try them out in the suggested scenario, versus trying to properly pair them with one of your existing amps and then determine they are not the right headphones for you. You still will end up eating the shipping costs with that situation. However, if someone around you has a pair, provide a "goodwill offering" of a 6-pack of some tasty micro brew and make a fun event out of trying the headphones out for an hour or so to see if they are to your liking. :wink:
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Unfortunately these meetups are very rare in New Zealand, otherwise I would. Reality is I need to make a decision in the coming 12 hours to get delivery in time. 
 
Dec 3, 2012 at 11:29 AM Post #2,726 of 22,116
matttcg said:
For the US, I would email drew at moon audio and ask for the sale price...about $360 plus shipping. 

gL!!
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Do you know his email address? i just went to the Contact Us page on Moon Audio.

Have you ever tried the NuForce Icon HDP? I was wondering if that was a sufficient Dac/Amp to go with the HE-400.

I'm looking for a 2nd headphone to go with the HD-650.
Just something more exciting and fun rather than the laid back HD-650 smooth sounding signature.
Something that would show a little more emphasis on bass and vocal heights (treble). I don't want a significant increase over the HD-650's though. :)

Please let me know, i have about $700 and from all the reading, i don't see that the HE-500 is worth the +$300 price.

- Tim
 
Dec 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM Post #2,727 of 22,116
I spoke to Drew when I ordered last week and it seems like they are no longer offering the sale price. However they are currently offering free UPS shipping in the US with Velour pads added in at no extra charge.
 
Dec 3, 2012 at 1:24 PM Post #2,728 of 22,116
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cssarrow said:
Do you know his email address? i just went to the Contact Us page on Moon Audio.
Have you ever tried the NuForce Icon HDP? I was wondering if that was a sufficient Dac/Amp to go with the HE-400.
I'm looking for a 2nd headphone to go with the HD-650.
Just something more exciting and fun rather than the laid back HD-650 smooth sounding signature.
Something that would show a little more emphasis on bass and vocal heights (treble). I don't want a significant increase over the HD-650's though.
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Please let me know, i have about $700 and from all the reading, i don't see that the HE-500 is worth the +$300 price.
- Tim
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Looks like they may longer be offering the sale price. 
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The Icon hdp would power the he400 very well....
 
gL!!
 
Dec 3, 2012 at 1:32 PM Post #2,729 of 22,116
The HE-400 and HE-500 are sold with a Minimum Advertised Price policy.  So, retailer cannot post a discount on their web sites, and those models don't qualify for any site-wide discount.
 
But any HiFiMan retailer can offer a private discount if you email them and ask.
 
And, at the moment, just about all of them offer Free Shipping in the U.S. since they cannot offer a lower price publicly.
 
Dec 3, 2012 at 1:36 PM Post #2,730 of 22,116
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networkn said:
What about weight? (Sorry I should have asked for that as well). I am asking them (friend) to bring it back in their luggage so I don't want to impose.  The HD650's I bought were in a MUCH larger box than the headphones themselves used. 
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You can actually get them shipped direct from HiFiMan to your home.
 
The web site for purchases is head-direct.com and says:
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Shipping method:
To US, Canada and Russia: USPS
To any other countries: International Express mail (EMS, UPS, DHL or Fedex)
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And they offer a refund if you return them within 30 days (minus shipping cost and the usual requirement is Like New with all packaging).
 
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