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post #13141 of 19921

hey all considering adding the he 400s to the collection.  I already own sennheiser hd 600s.  Are the he 400s different enough to be worth the money or is it merely a similar flavor in a different package?

post #13142 of 19921
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The he400 is a very different presentation than the hd600. 

post #13143 of 19921

They're pretty different.  I personally consider the HD600 to have slightly more forward than neutral upper mids, whereas both frequency extremes are rolled off.  HE-400 is just the opposite of that, where it extends well in both frequencies (too much upper treble in fact), and its upper mids are lowered.

post #13144 of 19921
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Originally Posted by Jmstrmbn View Post

hey all considering adding the he 400s to the collection.  I already own sennheiser hd 600s.  Are the he 400s different enough to be worth the money or is it merely a similar flavor in a different package?
I would call it night and day
post #13145 of 19921
I feel voices are well executed with the he400s. Maybe its been too long since the dt880 but I thought the 880s were more V shaped.
post #13146 of 19921
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

I feel voices are well executed with the he400s. Maybe its been too long since the dt880 but I thought the 880s were more V shaped.

 

Depends greatly on the pads. The DT880's are extremely neutral with stock pads. V-shaped with DT770 or J$ pads.

post #13147 of 19921

I want to bring out the upper mids and straighten out the treble on the 400s, what frequencies should I EQ? (I've been trying out different ones but I can't seem to get it right.)

post #13148 of 19921
4 kHz +3dB
8 kHz -3-4 dB
16 kHz -5 dB

That is if you haven't got acces to more precise EQ tool. What are u using?
post #13149 of 19921

Using foobar, I don't know of any free, compatible EQs.

post #13150 of 19921
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Originally Posted by Jmstrmbn View Post
 

hey all considering adding the he 400s to the collection.  I already own sennheiser hd 600s.  Are the he 400s different enough to be worth the money or is it merely a similar flavor in a different package?

 

Yes, it would be hard to think of a more complimentary pair of headphones, if I was to recommend 2 pairs for a variety of genres at this price it would be the HD600/650 for films, games, slow music, relaxing etc. and the HE400 for EDM, fast music etc.


Edited by nicholars - 9/29/13 at 3:57am
post #13151 of 19921
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

I feel voices are well executed with the he400s. Maybe its been too long since the dt880 but I thought the 880s were more V shaped.

 

It seems to depend on the song / quality or the singers voice, sometimes they sound really good and sometimes they sound a bit erm wonky.

post #13152 of 19921
Could you give me a few song names that sounds wonky with the voicing?
post #13153 of 19921
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

Could you give me a few song names that sounds wonky with the voicing?

 

Maybe wonky was not the right word, artificial would be better description, still they sound more realistic than most headphones at similar price and I am comparing them to the best headphones under £400, for example the HD650 sound more natural.... Never tried anything high end such as HE500, HD800 or LCD2....

 

Some headphones I have tried, such as Denon D600 or vmoda M-100 sound much more artificial than the HE400.... The bass and lower mids on the HE400 sound very realistic to me, the upper mids sound good but a bit quiet / distant and the treble spike combined with this can make some vocals sound a bit unrealistic... Sort of slightly distant but bright at the same time.... Not very bad though like the D600 which sounds completely metallic or the Vmoda M-100 which are pretty much missing about 50% of the sound due to the uneven frequency response.....

 


Edited by nicholars - 9/29/13 at 9:42am
post #13154 of 19921
Actually, wonky is the exact word that came to my mind when thinking of the 400's performance on some vocal tracks.
post #13155 of 19921
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post

Actually, wonky is the exact word that came to my mind when thinking of the 400's performance on some vocal tracks.

 

agree'd although with Vocal Trance I don't notice it as much :3 

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