[Jmstrmbn]

hey all considering adding the he 400s to the collection.  I already own sennheiser hd 600s.  Are the he 400s different enough to be worth the money or is it merely a similar flavor in a different package?

 

[MattTCG]

The he400 is a very different presentation than the hd600. 

 

[TMRaven]

They're pretty different.  I personally consider the HD600 to have slightly more forward than neutral upper mids, whereas both frequency extremes are rolled off.  HE-400 is just the opposite of that, where it extends well in both frequencies (too much upper treble in fact), and its upper mids are lowered.

 

[ethan7000]

hey all considering adding the he 400s to the collection.  I already own sennheiser hd 600s.  Are the he 400s different enough to be worth the money or is it merely a similar flavor in a different package?

I would call it night and day

 

[Soundsgoodtome]

I feel voices are well executed with the he400s. Maybe its been too long since the dt880 but I thought the 880s were more V shaped.

 

[Thujone]

I feel voices are well executed with the he400s. Maybe its been too long since the dt880 but I thought the 880s were more V shaped.

 
Depends greatly on the pads. The DT880's are extremely neutral with stock pads. V-shaped with DT770 or J$ pads.

 

[BODYHIGH]

I want to bring out the upper mids and straighten out the treble on the 400s, what frequencies should I EQ? (I've been trying out different ones but I can't seem to get it right.)

 

[davidsh]

4 kHz +3dB
8 kHz -3-4 dB
16 kHz -5 dB

That is if you haven't got acces to more precise EQ tool. What are u using?

 

[BODYHIGH]

Using foobar, I don't know of any free, compatible EQs.

 

[nicholars]

  hey all considering adding the he 400s to the collection.  I already own sennheiser hd 600s.  Are the he 400s different enough to be worth the money or is it merely a similar flavor in a different package?

 
Yes, it would be hard to think of a more complimentary pair of headphones, if I was to recommend 2 pairs for a variety of genres at this price it would be the HD600/650 for films, games, slow music, relaxing etc. and the HE400 for EDM, fast music etc.

 

[nicholars]

I feel voices are well executed with the he400s. Maybe its been too long since the dt880 but I thought the 880s were more V shaped.

 
It seems to depend on the song / quality or the singers voice, sometimes they sound really good and sometimes they sound a bit erm wonky.

 

[Soundsgoodtome]

Could you give me a few song names that sounds wonky with the voicing?

 

[nicholars]

Could you give me a few song names that sounds wonky with the voicing?

 
Maybe wonky was not the right word, artificial would be better description, still they sound more realistic than most headphones at similar price and I am comparing them to the best headphones under £400, for example the HD650 sound more natural.... Never tried anything high end such as HE500, HD800 or LCD2....
 
Some headphones I have tried, such as Denon D600 or vmoda M-100 sound much more artificial than the HE400.... The bass and lower mids on the HE400 sound very realistic to me, the upper mids sound good but a bit quiet / distant and the treble spike combined with this can make some vocals sound a bit unrealistic... Sort of slightly distant but bright at the same time.... Not very bad though like the D600 which sounds completely metallic or the Vmoda M-100 which are pretty much missing about 50% of the sound due to the uneven frequency response.....

 

 

[ethan7000]

Actually, wonky is the exact word that came to my mind when thinking of the 400's performance on some vocal tracks.

 

[Makiah S]

Actually, wonky is the exact word that came to my mind when thinking of the 400's performance on some vocal tracks.

 
agree'd although with Vocal Trance I don't notice it as much :3