rnros
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Schiit Gungnir DAC
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hi guys I am going to buy LCD2 and wonder what dac I am going to buy, I am thinking either Multibit bifrost or Gungnir. Though decision for me, not as experienced. Any thought? Will there be a clear difference? between the two?
No brainer for Gungnir since you can always upgrade it to Multibit whenever you like it. You also get balanced output which is essential for very hard to drive headphones as well as getting the most out of the high end headphone amplifiers.
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Nothing to worry about, in my experience. BW is single ended and Craig made it the same dimensions as Gungnir for a reason...
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Grrr. Flashback to however-many months ago when someone started a rumor that the SE outputs were intentionally gimped to make balanced seem better. This of course is nonsense.
BALANCED IS SUPPOSED TO SOUND BETTER! If it doesn't, its not a true dual-differential design or the other associated equipment is not up to par.
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Agree, this is Stillhurt's opinion ... I believe a more general consensus is that the DAC-19 is warmer and less resolving than Gumby.
I agree with what was mentioned by others; amplifiers which offer both SE and balanced topologies should sound best in balanced config. Other amps that are specifically built SE can sound just as good, or even better than some balanced amps... It all depends on design and implementation.
I agree with what was mentioned by others; amplifiers which offer both SE and balanced topologies should sound best in balanced config. Other amps that are specifically built SE can sound just as good, or even better than some balanced amps... It all depends on design and implementation.
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I asked schiit info yesterday and they recommend bifrost multibit with lyr2. I don't intend to get a new pair of headphone in near future besides the lcd2. So I guess bifrost is good enough for me for 2-4 years?
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Kind of having similar situation with you. Just got myself a LCD-3, and I'm planning to get Gungnir multibit as I don't plan to do any upgrade in the near future.. Ygg will be costing too much, plus Gungnir can have balanced output and you can connect to a balanced amp and active speakers..
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Yeah I think for lcd3, gungnir fits better
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I'm considering a Gumby (or a Yggy) for my living room system. However, the integration I have with various audio sources pretty much demands a means of remote iR switching between digital sources: USB, coax, and optical. Is there/does anyone recommend a good quality gadget that takes optical, coax, and USB in and outputs coax or USB, with a remote control? Thanks!
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Just listening to Bimby + Lyr 2 + HD600. I also have the Gumby for my speaker system and could compare a little bit (more to come later). Give the Bimby a week powered up (never switch it off again) and it will be spectacular and exceptional with the Lyr 2. I don't have the lcd2 but if your taste is anything close to mine I think you will be more than satisfied with that combination. If you would chance anything later on I guess it would be the amplifier, not the Bimby.
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Is this really necessary for Bimby and Gumby? A whole week? It takes that long to warm up?
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I knew I would get into trouble for that statement
I cannot be entirely certain, but my impression was that it indeed changes its character quite a bit and that it needs more than 1 day. I believe it went through two phases where the sound was a bit off-balance. For Gumby I don't know, I have only heard the DAC after it was switched on for a week (while traveling).
A week is probably an excessive margin, but if you don't switch it off it doesn't really matter. Bimby sounds great already out of the box. Just wanted to encourage you to try the Bimby + Lyr 2 setup and to give it some time to get used to your new rig.
But I think we should maybe move this discussion to the Bimby thread.
In my experience, the first use took at least 2 days for the soundstage to become holographic and timbre to sound right. After a month of use, the Bimby only takes 1 hour from cold to get the sound the way it should. Then again, I only turn off the Bimby at least once a month.
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First of all dude, the warm up requirements have been fairly well documented. Secondly, this is a ******* Multibit DAC with ******* thermal requirements, man. You can't turn it off. It gets upset. Its hair falls out. ******* DAC has ******* thermal requirements...
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No, thermal equilibrium is approached after around a couple of hours. But it takes nearly a month for them to break in. The qualities of the materials change, mostly dielectrics.
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