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post #1096 of 6662

When using WASAPI should the bit rate be set to 16/24/32? Most of my music is from CD's. Also should I use Push or Event mode?

post #1097 of 6662
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Originally Posted by OICWUTUDIDTHAR View Post

When using WASAPI should the bit rate be set to 16/24/32? Most of my music is from CD's. Also should I use Push or Event mode?

No reason not to use 24 bit (Schiit DACs don't do 32), CDs are 16 but sending them as 24 doesn't do anything to the data, just pads it with extra empty bits.

Don't know about the different modes though, sorry.
post #1098 of 6662
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Originally Posted by Defiant00 View Post


No reason not to use 24 bit (Schiit DACs don't do 32), CDs are 16 but sending them as 24 doesn't do anything to the data, just pads it with extra empty bits.

Don't know about the different modes though, sorry.

While you may not hear a difference, the computer padding the extra bits can result in some quality loss. Ideally you want to match the bitrate of your source files, otherwise you are not playing 'bit perfect'. 

post #1099 of 6662
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Originally Posted by Defiant00 View Post

 

For some reason it seems like Bifrost discussion just wanders around between the various Schiit threads.

 

If it helps any I like mine a lot with the Asgard, and part of that is because of how nicely they stack smily_headphones1.gif

 

Thanks for the input. Any Schiit stack (M&M, Asgard/Lyr/Valhalla & Bifrost, Mjollnir&Gungnir) is really pleasant to look. They are really clean looking.

 

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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

Correct. I'll try to recall where this was said. I believe it was the Gungnir thread.

 

Yes, I actually have read about the blind test. That really raised my interest in Bifrost in a huge way for their price.

post #1100 of 6662

Hey guys,

Thinking of selling my lyr/bifrost.

I am looking for a balanced system, and the statement amp is really peaking my interest.[hybrid and speaker outs) I think.

I am wondering if the Gungnir would be good with this amp. I know that they are not out yet, but the gungnir is so good that I don't feel it would make that much of a dif.

 

Thanks

post #1101 of 6662

Well new member of the club here, just got my Asgard. Liking it a lot so far with my HD545's, but sadly my source isn't up to snuff yet. Hopefully in the next few days I'll upgrade though. Should have some Q701's here tomorrow too, they seem to have mixed reactions with the Asgard, but I'll go in with an open mind.

post #1102 of 6662
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Originally Posted by winenerd View Post

Well new member of the club here, just got my Asgard. Liking it a lot so far with my HD545's, but sadly my source isn't up to snuff yet. Hopefully in the next few days I'll upgrade though. Should have some Q701's here tomorrow too, they seem to have mixed reactions with the Asgard, but I'll go in with an open mind.

Congrats and enjoy the music. smily_headphones1.gif
post #1103 of 6662
Just looked at the Schiit web site and it says they are shipping Gungnir's again.
I broke form and changed my order to have USB and 2nd day from Audio Advisor.

Oh baby
post #1104 of 6662
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Originally Posted by aqsw View Post

Hey guys,
Thinking of selling my lyr/bifrost.
I am looking for a balanced system, and the statement amp is really peaking my interest.[hybrid and speaker outs) I think.
I am wondering if the Gungnir would be good with this amp. I know that they are not out yet, but the gungnir is so good that I don't feel it would make that much of a dif.

Thanks
Statement stuff is delayed til summer. Up to you what to do til then, but if you have no DAC atm, Gungnir is the best DAC I've heard with any personal time and you might be able to find a used one for a bit less.
Edited by Maxvla - 1/23/13 at 1:55pm
post #1105 of 6662
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Originally Posted by NZheadcase View Post


Congrats and enjoy the music. smily_headphones1.gif

Thanks! smily_headphones1.gif  Been listening for about three straight hours, not too shabby at all. Now I'm just debating between a Xonar and Modi.

post #1106 of 6662
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

Statement stuff is delayed til summer. Up to you what to do til then, but if you have no amp atm, Gungnir is one of the best values around for balanced amps. If you prefer tube and are using high impedance headphones, a similarly priced amp is the Little Dot MKVI+. It was a great amp that looks nice as well.

Gungnir is a DAC
post #1107 of 6662
Oh duh. Getting them confused since I'm reading HF and doing something else at the same time. Edited...
Edited by Maxvla - 1/22/13 at 11:06pm
post #1108 of 6662
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

Oh duh. Getting them confused since I'm reading HF and doing something else at the same time. Edited...

I didn't want to say anything..........

cuz I want to keep it mello.

 

That's why I put in my disclaimer.

post #1109 of 6662
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Originally Posted by phototristan View Post

While you may not hear a difference, the computer padding the extra bits can result in some quality loss. Ideally you want to match the bitrate of your source files, otherwise you are not playing 'bit perfect'. 

 

Not really. For sample rate this is true, but for bit rate it isn't.

 

Briefly, data in blue, extra bits in red.

1110110010100001                      Let's say this is our 16 bit sample.

111011001010000100000000        If we have the computer set to 24 bit mode it does this instead, just tacks on 8 extra zeroes. The leading 16 bits are exactly the same data.

 

 

Technically, yes, those extra bits are not part of the original file. But the full sample is being sent (with padding), so you are not losing any data or quality. There's no fancy processing being done, it's just putting eight zeroes at the end of each sample. And since they're the least significant bits it just indicates that there's no data beyond that point, same as natively sending 16 bit samples.


Edited by Defiant00 - 1/23/13 at 6:03am
post #1110 of 6662

Hello!

 

Newbie joining in. Just finished reading this whole thread (long one!).

 

I'm hoping to be owner of B&A combo soon. I was ordering them from Schiit directly, but remembered the VAT, that would be added to package. So, instead ordered them from european reseller from France. It just feels that delivery is taking ages! I ordered them on 7.1. and still no word from frenchmen that they would be on their way to Finland. I even contacted them few days ago, but haven't heard anything back.

I just recently bought HD 650 and I don't have any amp to power them. Even my untrained ears can "hear" that they don't sound nowhere near their capacity when driven directly from my Galaxy S2 or computer. This is a long wait.

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