Jun 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM Post #541 of 1,022
I don't know if you have to go to the high end Ultrasones to compete with these.  Try the Audio Technica esw9, esw10 and es10.  The esw9 are now only around $200. and es10 are $400. One way below in cost and the other just slightly over and both good performers.  The es10 is even kind of an over the ear....almost.
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Jun 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM Post #542 of 1,022
Craigster, can you tell me more about the PSB M4U 2? I think they are nicer looking than the amperiors and if they do sound better than thats a winwin for me.
Does anyone else have experience with PSB?
 
Jun 28, 2012 at 12:48 PM Post #543 of 1,022
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Craigster, can you tell me more about the PSB M4U 2? I think they are nicer looking than the amperiors and if they do sound better than thats a winwin for me.
Does anyone else have experience with PSB?

Niurez,
This link should help.  The M4U2 is truly an amazing headphone.  Some might think less of it because of the built-in amplification, but I consider it a bonus.  Unlike most other headphones with built-in amplification or noise cancelling, these sound AMAZING in passive mode.  They are heavier than the Amperior and have more of an executive look compared to the sporty look of the Amperior, but they outperform the Amperior across the board- cleaner highs, more detailed mids, and deeper, impactful bass.  Don't buy the Amperior without auditioning these first.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/605079/psb-m4u-2/30#post_8491103
 
Jun 28, 2012 at 1:41 PM Post #544 of 1,022
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Niurez,
This link should help.  The M4U2 is truly an amazing headphone.  Some might think less of it because of the built-in amplification, but I consider it a bonus.  Unlike most other headphones with built-in amplification or noise cancelling, these sound AMAZING in passive mode.  They are heavier than the Amperior and have more of an executive look compared to the sporty look of the Amperior, but they outperform the Amperior across the board- cleaner highs, more detailed mids, and deeper, impactful bass.  Don't buy the Amperior without auditioning these first.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/605079/psb-m4u-2/30#post_8491103

Thanks a ton!
 
Jun 28, 2012 at 9:22 PM Post #545 of 1,022
The PSB M4U in my opinion are not amazing for their price. They should not have made them noise cancelling because that's not their forte. As mentioned, they sound better in passive mode. They're really solid headphones, build like a tank and big. They provide two cables and extra cables with them too. It's not bad for a first headphone, but kind of pricy in my opinion. I definitely love their speakers thought. My father recently got some Imagine B bookshelves and they sound amazing.
 
It's a toss up for me between the amperiors and the M4U. Don't own either (yet); but I've compared them today in our store after having read this thread.
 
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Jun 28, 2012 at 9:45 PM Post #547 of 1,022
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Here are other option for portable:
v-moda m80
aiaiai tma-1
ultrasone  hfi (560, 580, 780 etc..)
dt1350
and why not a pro 900 + a fiio (don't ask me which one).
 
 the pro 900 seems a popular can.


All good alternatives except perhaps the TMA-1 which is dark to the point of sounding veiled.  Also, the Pro 900 has a very strong v-curve.  To me, the high end is like nails on a chalkboard. 
 
For the FiiO, I have the E11 and am pleased with its performance, compactness and two levels of bass boost.
 
Jun 30, 2012 at 2:04 PM Post #548 of 1,022
haha I am having a really hard time deciding which headphone to buy. It will be my first one so I want one that is good on all levels and since I 'm a student I really cant afford two headphones to compare :D
 
Jun 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM Post #549 of 1,022
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haha I am having a really hard time deciding which headphone to buy. It will be my first one so I want one that is good on all levels and since I 'm a student I really cant afford two headphones to compare :D


I have auditioned dozens of headphones over the past few months and would be happy to give my two cents.  I can help narrow it down if you can answer a few questions:
 
What is your budget?
Where will you primarily be using them?
What kind of music do you like?
Type- in-ear, on ear or over ear?
Do you consider yourself more of a basshead, prefer neutral or like sparkling, bright highs?
 
Jun 30, 2012 at 3:54 PM Post #550 of 1,022
Craigster, did you find the tonality/timbre/decay on the Sig Pro to be accurate/natural to actual instruments? Or did it seem to have that Ultrasone house sound? While I like my PRO 650s I wouldn't call their tonality natural. Detailed, spacious, and airy but not natural to live sound. Natural tonality is what I'm mainly striving for in this hobby (after discovering my Panasonic HJE900 IEM).

Thanks for any input!
 
Jun 30, 2012 at 4:43 PM Post #551 of 1,022
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Craigster, did you find the tonality/timbre/decay on the Sig Pro to be accurate/natural to actual instruments? Or did it seem to have that Ultrasone house sound? While I like my PRO 650s I wouldn't call their tonality natural. Detailed, spacious, and airy but not natural to live sound. Natural tonality is what I'm mainly striving for in this hobby (after discovering my Panasonic HJE900 IEM).

Thanks for any input!


I found them to be unlike any other Ultrasone with the exception of the Edition 8.  Definitely natural and transparent in contrast with something like the PRO 900 where I would classify extended listening as torture.
 
Jun 30, 2012 at 4:48 PM Post #553 of 1,022
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I found them to be unlike any other Ultrasone with the exception of the Edition 8.  Definitely natural and transparent in contrast with something like the PRO 900 where I would classify extended listening as torture.

Where does that leave people like me who finds the Pro 900 very listenable and enjoyable, while not liking the HD25-1 II?
 
Jun 30, 2012 at 4:53 PM Post #554 of 1,022
I guess that depends on what your preferences are. Sounds like you can't stand the narrow soundstage of the HD25 which is understandable, especially vs. the PRO 900. Still timbre is better on the HD25 (though not exceptional).
 

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