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Oct 14, 2013 at 8:03 AM Post #5,312 of 39,986
sweden said:
 
rosgr63 said:
  Cryptic here?
 
Glenn has been revealing so many details that many designers/makers would never mention in a public forum.
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Sure he has and that's a good thing, but I don't know how many pages I've read by now with no one mentioning the basic sound of the amps, other than they sound very nice.
It's kind of frustrating by this point to be honest.
At least one detailed comparison with another amp would be helpful.
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I thought this thread was about cookies and pie??!  
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Oct 14, 2013 at 8:16 AM Post #5,313 of 39,986
longbowbbs said:
  I thought this thread was about cookies and pie??!  
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There are lot's of impressions how different tubes sounding, but no real comparison to other amps, correct me if I'm wrong.
I know tubes can make a huge difference, but still you can say something about the basic design and signature.
Even now when I asked for someone to step up to the plate did I get any real answer. Opposite of a Leben. Not sure how I should interpret that.
 
Oct 14, 2013 at 8:20 AM Post #5,314 of 39,986
Maybe you should interpret that that people don't really have a good answer for you.  Your tone seems to indicate that you think we are hiding something from you.
 
The Leben is a lush, warm amp, while being incredibly detailed.  Glenn's amp are a bit more neutral and dynamic.
 
Having said that, if you ask 10 people to describe something you will probably get 10 different answers, all without any frame of reference.
 
Oct 14, 2013 at 8:27 AM Post #5,316 of 39,986
I only have the 300B amp so I can only describe that sound, and I should compare it to other 300B amps, which I don't have.
I have 3 OTLs of which the Crack but I don't have the Glenn OTL. The only one who comes close to having your amp selection is Clayton, but as far as I know he's more of an "enjoyer" then a talker, but maybe if you ask him nicely he'll help you out.
 
Feel free to buy me a Glenn OTL and I'll give you a 2000 word review/comparison with my other OTL gear
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I'd just pm one of the guys with an OTL here to ask if they can describe the sound of their unit. DMinches just gave you a short impression already. Good luck!
 
Oct 14, 2013 at 8:30 AM Post #5,317 of 39,986
dminches said:
  Maybe you should interpret that that people don't really have a good answer for you.  Your tone seems to indicate that you think we are hiding something from you.
 
The Leben is a lush, warm amp, while being incredibly detailed.  Glenn's amp are a bit more neutral and dynamic.
 
Having said that, if you ask 10 people to describe something you will probably get 10 different answers, all without any frame of reference.
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I know it can be hard describing sound, especially with amps that don't have much of a signature beyond the tubes you put in.
It definitively was not my intention to direct any suspicion of anyone covering up anything about the amp.
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Sometimes you seem you have to push the action a bit to get a straight answer.
Maybe me asking the question made someone who didn't know what to really think, think extra hard and come up with his best impression.  
 
Oct 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM Post #5,318 of 39,986
ultrainferno said:
  I only have the 300B amp so I can only describe that sound, and I should compare it to other 300B amps, which I don't have.
I have 3 OTLs of which the Crack but I don't have the Glenn OTL. The only one who comes close to having your amp selection is Clayton, but as far as I know he's more of an "enjoyer" then a talker, but maybe if you ask him nicely he'll help you out.
 
Feel free to buy me a Glenn OTL and I'll give you a 2000 word review/comparison with my other OTL gear
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I'd just pm one of the guys with an OTL here to ask if they can describe the sound of their unit. DMinches just gave you a short impression already. Good luck!
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That is teamwork. Nice going.
 
Oct 14, 2013 at 8:40 AM Post #5,319 of 39,986
2359glenn said:
  What amp do you want it to sound like?
I don't know that it sounds like any other amp.
The only thing I can say is that everybody that bought it loved it.
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Personally I like it some sound a bit like a Leben (typical tube lushness) with perhaps larger and more coherent soundstage and holographic imaging.
Natural flowing tonality, great bass impact, the sense of being at the venue. Sense of air moving in recordings. Good depth, big sound, good dynamics. Something that peals away the clinical edge of a HD800 but maintains all it's technical advantages.
 
Leben is a bit too pricey and it is better designed for lower impedance headphones even though I like it a lot with the HD800.
 
Oct 14, 2013 at 9:01 AM Post #5,320 of 39,986
sweden said:
   
Personally I like it some sound a bit like a Leben (typical tube lushness) with perhaps larger and more coherent soundstage and holographic imaging.
Natural flowing tonality, great bass impact, the sense of being at the venue. Sense of air moving in recordings. Good depth, big sound, good dynamics. Something that peals away the clinical edge of a HD800 but maintains all it's technical advantages.
 
Leben is a bit too pricey and it is better designed for lower impedance headphones even though I like it a lot with the HD800.
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When someone said to me that they didn't like the sound of a 300B amp I couldn't comprehend how anyone could tell the sound signature of a 300B tube any more than I can tell sonically the differences between minis versus octals like the 6992 verusus the 6SN7.
 
The Leben (300 I would assume) is every bit as you describe. The Leben CS600, the one I now own, compared to the CS300XS, the model I used to own, sounds like the 300 x .5. To me the 600 does not sound twice the sound 300 signature as you describe. In fact when I switch from Glenn's 300B mono blocks to the Leben (I amp roll more than tube roll and have a lack of describing sound, unlike Ultra- who has a knack for it--had to do it: Lack KNack) the 600 is too colored. But when my ears settle in on it, then it is a wonderful experience. When I switch back to the 300B mono blocks, it sounds flat, but when the settle in, it is cleaner and more focused. The lows are there and the highs too--and yes the mids are wonderful. I'd say that if photographs were amps, the Leben would be HDR and Glenn's mb would be the original photograph. IMO. And mind you, that is when I switch from the Leben to the Glenn Amp.
 
When all is said and done, I love them both (otherwise I would own just one amp) and I am captured by the sound I am enveloped in at the moment. Like switching from Baroque to Bluegrass: it's the artists' artistry that moves me once I sink into that couch of mine.
 
Oct 14, 2013 at 9:13 AM Post #5,321 of 39,986
longbowbbs said:
  I thought this thread was about cookies and pie??!  
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Sorry Eric, I'll get back on track soon.............
I've been very defensive here, I am only human.
 
 
dminches said:
  Maybe you should interpret that that people don't really have a good answer for you.  Your tone seems to indicate that you think we are hiding something from you.
 
The Leben is a lush, warm amp, while being incredibly detailed.  Glenn's amp are a bit more neutral and dynamic.
 
Having said that, if you ask 10 people to describe something you will probably get 10 different answers, all without any frame of reference.
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Absolutely right David.
One must be very careful and specific as the tubes used can change an amp's character.
In my case I get a very different sound when I use 6BL7's and then change to 6336.
And I haven't tried a quad of my Osram 6AS7G black base or an ECC32 driver or my 33S30's yet.
 
clayton sf said:
   
When someone said to me that they didn't like the sound of a 300B amp I couldn't comprehend how anyone could tell the sound signature of a 300B tube any more than I can tell sonically the differences between minis versus octals like the 6992 verusus the 6SN7.
 
The Leben (300 I would assume) is every bit as you describe. The Leben CS600, the one I now own, compared to the CS300XS, the model I used to own, sounds like the 300 x .5. To me the 600 does not sound twice the sound 300 signature as you describe. In fact when I switch from Glenn's 300B mono blocks to the Leben (I amp roll more than tube roll and have a lack of describing sound, unlike Ultra- who has a knack for it--had to do it: Lack KNack) the 600 is too colored. But when my ears settle in on it, then it is a wonderful experience. When I switch back to the 300B mono blocks, it sounds flat, but when the settle in, it is cleaner and more focused. The lows are there and the highs too--and yes the mids are wonderful. I'd say that if photographs were amps, the Leben would be HDR and Glenn's mb would be the original photograph. IMO. And mind you, that is when I switch from the Leben to the Glenn Amp.
 
When all is said and done, I love them both (otherwise I would own just one amp) and I am captured by the sound I am enveloped in at the moment. Like switching from Baroque to Bluegrass: it's the artists' artistry that moves me once I sink into that couch of mine.
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Thanks for the great account Clayton.
Enjoy your new iMac!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Oct 14, 2013 at 10:07 AM Post #5,323 of 39,986
Her's what we had yesterday for desert.
 
I had two after lunch, one before I went to bed and two at 5am.
Never slept but it was well worth it!
 
It's called THE SIN!!!!!!!
 

 

 
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