An audiophile and petrolhead's journal: Buckle up!
Dec 11, 2013 at 10:37 PM Post #5,176 of 9,499
I look at it this way: If you want to do 100 MPH around an industrial park, would you rather be in a Porsche or a Prius? At least the Porsche actually had a chance of making it.
 
Dec 11, 2013 at 10:41 PM Post #5,177 of 9,499
Someone forgot to tell them that a high performance supercar like the Carrera GT can outbrake and protect its occupants a lot better than pretty much every car. Stupidity can't save someone though, not even if you are in a Porsche.
 
Dec 11, 2013 at 10:49 PM Post #5,178 of 9,499
I look at it this way: If you want to do 100 MPH around an industrial park, would you rather be in a Porsche or a Prius? At least the Porsche actually had a chance of making it.


Someday the powers that be will mandate that ALL cars be electric powered Hummers
 
Dec 11, 2013 at 11:03 PM Post #5,181 of 9,499
Stop blaming Porsche! They didn't kill Paul Walker!



Okay, I'll be serious for a minute.
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What's up with the media and the Carrera GT hate and FUD? We've gotten 4 calls this week from various news outlets wanting interviews with me about the "dangerous" CGT and wanting a ride-along to "see how terrifying it is". One, "ain't nobody got time for that", my life is busy and what spare time I do have is precious, reserved for family and friends. Two, I don't want t be on the news, there's no benefit to it from what I can see. However, I did tell them that driving a car like the CGT is like having a big dog that's high-strung. If you stop respecting it and are too aggressive with it at the wrong time, it can bite you and inflict a lot of damage. That isn't the dog's fault, it's the owner's, for not using good judgement while handling it. It's still one of my favorite cars in the world but it isn't the same as jumping behind the wheel of a BMW or even a GT-R, it requires a lot more focus and familiarity.

 
Áccording to the Daily Mail, one factor of the crash might be due to something called "Bott's Dotts" which made the car loose traction after hitting the bumps.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2521855/Paul-Walker-death-crash-caused-road-bumps-say-family.html
Because it comes from the Daily Mail, take it with a grain of salt.
 
Also, how the hell did the media know that you own a CGT? I bet if one of those media journo's gets a ride-along in a CGT, they'll surely blows thing out of proportion just to create a sensation.
 

 
Jalopnik seems skeptical about the cause of incident, I do too.
http://jalopnik.com/why-its-truly-unlikely-paul-walkers-crash-was-caused-1481421563
 
Dec 11, 2013 at 11:27 PM Post #5,182 of 9,499
Well, the dots were definitely there - you can see them in the pictures I posted. However - it seems to me that the dots would really only have been a problem if you were going VERY fast and braking HARD and/or throwing the car sideways. Those dots are no problem if you are doing 30 MPH - or if you are going 100 MPH in a straight line. If you are doing something stupid in a completely inappropriate location, then yeah - the dots might be a problem...
 
Dec 12, 2013 at 1:03 AM Post #5,183 of 9,499
first of all in the other car thread I saw people recently even posted their plates. when I posted my 599 gto in that thread I scribbled it out like mad. even the trees in my driveway. I am paranoid and do not want anyone other than those I choose to know who I am. anyways, what is wrong with the people. the car is not dangerous. look what just happened to happen to me in a cgt. I was going about 130mph in an yes, industrial park. around a light outside corner. 3 deer pranced out. I panicked and stupidly jumped off the throttle and slammed on the brakes! I deserved to bite it that day. I really did. I was very lucky. it spun around several times and hit nothing. now, lots of other super cars will do this if you treat them like that. honestly I thought the gt2 I had was more high strung than the cgt. the cgt handled much better. I hate the media which is why I try to remain anonymous. for the record a cgt in fact is much less dangerous than a prius. think about this. the little Toyota does not even have enough power to get out of danger if you need to. or brake hard if you need to. these people are so stupid. the dog analogy is a good one. you must respect things that will bite you if you are not on point.
 
btw, an 800" tv lol? like I said video is not my thing. I am perfectly happy 34' from the 55".
 
Dec 12, 2013 at 3:38 AM Post #5,184 of 9,499
Áccording to the Daily Mail, one factor of the crash might be due to something called "Bott's Dotts" which made the car loose traction after hitting the bumps.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2521855/Paul-Walker-death-crash-caused-road-bumps-say-family.html
Because it comes from the Daily Mail, take it with a grain of salt.

Also, how the hell did the media know that you own a CGT? I bet if one of those media journo's gets a ride-along in a CGT, they'll surely blows thing out of proportion just to create a sensation.

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Jalopnik seems skeptical about the cause of incident, I do too.
http://jalopnik.com/why-its-truly-unlikely-paul-walkers-crash-was-caused-1481421563



Although possible, I'm more of a believer that it was the snap oversteer, on the track it's "gotten" me before (we then made adjustments to the suspension). It happens almost instantly and you only have a tenth of a second to compensate before it's gone. I suppose it could have been both, but that would have been some really bad luck.

I've been spotted around town in the yellow CGT so it's likely they tracked me down, since I also own a business, where it can be seen coming and going from. I've not tried to stay completely hidden.


I look at it this way: If you want to do 100 MPH around an industrial park, would you rather be in a Porsche or a Prius? At least the Porsche actually had a chance of making it.



I doubt the Prius could do 100 around there, but I will say that if it could, the results would look the same. The media claims they weren't "street racing", but going 90mph around a corner in an industrial park IS racing, regardless of whether or not there was another car involved. We (the people in my HS "car club") use to run "time attack" races in a similar type of place when I was a teen, at similar speeds, and God knows that could have been our fate on any giving night. Since most of us were stupid kids in muscle/pony cars, the likelihood of one of us getting killed was probably much higher. :xf_eek:
 
Dec 12, 2013 at 5:22 AM Post #5,186 of 9,499
Are there any more reports on what caused the crash? The car had newly arrived at the dealership, correct? I read some things about a fluid leak in the front portion of the car and immediately remembered what happened to a Guards Red CGT on black powdercoated stock wheels here in Belgium about a year ago...
 
http://www.autogespot.be/nl/belgische-porsche-carrera-gt-betrokken-bij-ongeval
 
Same car ? Done up, exported with a clean title ? Horrifying if true.
 
Dec 12, 2013 at 8:34 AM Post #5,187 of 9,499
GT #0479 (the one in question) was owned by 8 people in its short life, been in 4 reported accidents, and has had an extensive rebuild of the front-end. However, it appears to have always been a US car. Given the shoddy work in most garages, and the GT's very complex front linkage system, it's not hard to imagine that something mechanical could have gone wrong.

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Billy, if you have any desire for a sports car, at all, you should snap this up, if you can. That's a remarkable little Opel with 72k miles, a very solid service/maintenance record, and no wrecks.

http://bringatrailer.com/2013/12/11/bat-exclusive-dads-1970-opel-gt/


There's a little rust underneath, but it isn't bad. Just sand it off, spray on a good sealant, and you're GTG. No, it won't be crazy fast, but a sweeter little weekend runabout you'll not find for that price.

Edit: Oh, and that color is perfect. :cool:
 
Dec 12, 2013 at 8:58 AM Post #5,188 of 9,499
Ah - the Opel GT!

LOL - the air conditioning compressor is about the same size as the engine! :p




I have two stories on the Opel GT:

- When I was in high school, one of the (many) rednecks in town had taken an Opel GT and welded on enough sheet metal to turn it into a "Opel GT Superbird". It had a long wedge shaped nose and a big wing in the back so it looked just like a dwarf version of Richard Petty's Superbird. Until the recent trend of putting 36" wheels on an Altima, that "Superbird" was the dumbest looking car I had ever seen!

- I once worked with a guy that had managed to stuff a Ford 289 into an Opel GT. Of course, he did it as a complete hack job - the firewall had to be cutout and most of the transmission was in the cockpit. He couldn't fit an adequate radiator on the engine, and he could only run it for a short time before the engine overheated - and it was so dang hot inside the car that no one would want to sit in the car for more than a few minutes.

Why? Who can fathom the mysterious mind of the American redneck... :D
 
Dec 12, 2013 at 9:10 AM Post #5,189 of 9,499
Ah the Opel GT, the only car with a manual lever to operate those funky pop up headlights.
 
Dec 12, 2013 at 9:45 AM Post #5,190 of 9,499
GT #0479 (the one in question) was owned by 8 people in its short life, been in 4 reported accidents, and has had an extensive rebuild of the front-end. However, it appears to have always been a US car. Given the shoddy work in most garages, and the GT's very complex front linkage system, it's not hard to imagine that something mechanical could have gone wrong.

Billy, if you have any desire for a sports car, at all, you should snap this up, if you can. That's a remarkable little Opel with 72k miles, a very solid service/maintenance record, and no wrecks.

http://bringatrailer.com/2013/12/11/bat-exclusive-dads-1970-opel-gt/


There's a little rust underneath, but it isn't bad. Just sand it off, spray on a good sealant, and you're GTG. No, it won't be crazy fast, but a sweeter little weekend runabout you'll not find for that price.

Edit: Oh, and that color is perfect.
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And yet it still screams 13B to me:)
 

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