The Beyerdynamic DT250 Thread

[donunus]

After getting used to them for a little while, I'm digging the 80 ohm cans too If the 250 ohm version was an equivalent to the hd600 I feel these are a step towards the hd650 sound in its parallel world. I feel the 80 ohm version to be a good match with remastered cds while the 250 ohm is more at home with 80s pressings of the same album for example.

 

[bookaboo]

yeah exactly, I feel the 80ohm are more forgiving like the hd650 relative to the hd600 which exposes tracks more just like the 250ohm. I like to just chill with the 80ohms and not worry about what quality my tunes are, etc. 

 

[donunus]

I feel that the highs are opening up a little bit after a few hours of burn in but the 80 ohm version is still more forward and bold than the 250 ohm making the highs take a backseat to the mids.
 
Directly ABing coming from the 250 ohm version, the 80 ohm gets a little annoying in its forwardness while doing the vice versa coming from the 80 ohm makes the 250 ohm version sound thin in a direct swap. It is not a good idea to compare these two directly. Instead I would take a 5 minute break in between listens so that the ears have first adjusted to the sound of nature before using any of the cans.

 

[JayB18]

The graphs for the 2 phones are nearly identical minus the 3-4db midbass hump and treble rolloff around 12-13000hz on the 80 ohm version. Is this more or less what you are hearing between the 2? I have the 80 ohm version and i am more than happy with it. They get more use than any other phone for me since they allow me to casually listen without wanting to pick out every little detail in everything. They just allow me to enjoy the music.
 
My second favorite pair are the beyer DT440 which to me sound like an open version of the DT250 with a noticeably more prominent treble response, slightly less bass, and more air, detail, separation, and soundstage. The treble can be a bit much at times though, especially compared to the DT250.

 

[stv014]

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The graphs for the 2 phones are nearly identical minus the 3-4db midbass hump and treble rolloff around 12-13000hz on the 80 ohm version.

The differences seem to be similar to the DT770. I wonder how much similar the drivers are ?
 

 

[donunus]

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The graphs for the 2 phones are nearly identical minus the 3-4db midbass hump and treble rolloff around 12-13000hz on the 80 ohm version. Is this more or less what you are hearing between the 2? I have the 80 ohm version and i am more than happy with it. They get more use than any other phone for me since they allow me to casually listen without wanting to pick out every little detail in everything. They just allow me to enjoy the music.
 
My second favorite pair are the beyer DT440 which to me sound like an open version of the DT250 with a noticeably more prominent treble response, slightly less bass, and more air, detail, separation, and soundstage. The treble can be a bit much at times though, especially compared to the DT250.

The graphs are pretty spot on. 3-4db is quite a bit especially when it is about an octave worth of frequencies that are boosted. I used to also have the dt440 but thought they were a bit too bright for my liking. the 250-250 is just right but I may still keep the 80 ohm version too.
 

 

[JayB18]

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The graphs are pretty spot on. 3-4db is quite a bit especially when it is about an octave worth of frequencies that are boosted. I used to also have the dt440 but thought they were a bit too bright for my liking. the 250-250 is just right but I may still keep the 80 ohm version too.
 

The graphs make me want to try the 250 ohm version but I do not have an amp which is why I went with the 80 ohm version when I bought it. I kind of agree the DT440 are a bit bright but I still like them more then the MS-1, HD555 and AD700 so they are my open can of choice at the moment at least until I can afford a decent amp and better sources. Then I might try the HD600 or DT880 and maybe eventually try the 250 ohm version of the DT250.

 

[donunus]

I just reinstalled windows due to a cd burning problem on my linux installation and the 80 ohm model actually sounds more balanced IMO with windows. Linux sounded richer than the relatively thin sounding windows 7 making the 250 ohm model sound a little too bright on the MS OS. On my full sized stereo system integrated amp, the 250 ohm still sounds better and sounds more similar to how it is out of linux.

 

[donunus]

I was just wondering what amps people are using to drive the 80 ohm version dt250. My 250 ohm version just seems easier to drive even though it is quieter than the 80 ohm version at the same volume level. The dt250 can go louder without distortion on a cmoy vs the 80 ohm even though it is less sensitive.

 

[stv014]

For a CMOY, 250 Ohm may be easier to drive as long as the maximum output voltage is high enough, since it needs less current. Most common op-amps (as used in CMOYs to drive headphones directly without a buffer) are optimized for high impedance loads of 600 Ohms or more, and can only output low current up to a few tens of mA. 250 Ohm drivers may also work better overall if the source has high output impedance.
 
 

 

[donunus]

Yup I noticed that since the FiiO E10 sounds better with the 80 ohm model than the cmoy. I now wonder what would be a great amp in the 200 dollar level for the 80 ohm cans that is more powerful than the fiio e10's amp section and not sounding too mechanical analytical.

 

[jupitreas]

 

[bookaboo]

Hey gret pics, what brand is that case?

 

[jupitreas]

It is a generic case I got off of eBay. The seller (who is from China) has a number of cool headphone accessories, including various hard cases like this one. I measured the dimensions of the DT250 and ordered the case that fit it best. 
 
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Hey gret pics, what brand is that case?

 

 

[bookaboo]

Do you remember the sellers name? Been looking for a case for the dt250 so I can throw them on the backpack without fear.