[Raster]

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Wait, I totally remember this question... I could have sworn I answered it... lemme go look.
 
EDIT:  This didn't help much?  The portables part of it I mean.  We ruled out the Tai Chi afterward.  http://www.head-fi.org/t/596233/buying-portable-or-in-ear-headphones-seeking-guidance-dont-start-a-new-thread-ask-for-advice-here/4605#post_9451601

No-no, it was quite helpful as I didn't even know that kind of headphone existed in nature. While it's pretty on paper, sound can be difficult to communicate. Currently, Sennheiser IE60 are the best sounds earphone I have and in case I get something with a smaller soundstage and bass response I can say right now that my ears will go on a strike.

 

[warrenpchi]

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Wait, I totally remember this question... I could have sworn I answered it... lemme go look.
 
EDIT:  This didn't help much?  The portables part of it I mean.  We ruled out the Tai Chi afterward.  http://www.head-fi.org/t/596233/buying-portable-or-in-ear-headphones-seeking-guidance-dont-start-a-new-thread-ask-for-advice-here/4605#post_9451601

 
No-no, it was quite helpful as I didn't even know that kind of headphone existed in nature. While it's pretty on paper, sound can be difficult to communicate. Currently, Sennheiser IE60 are the best sounds earphone I have and in case I get something with a smaller soundstage and bass response I can say right now that my ears will go on a strike.

 
I wish I could give you a better answer, but my own auditioning experience only goes so far...

  I'm working on fixing that, believe me I am. 

 

[johnnyb0y99]

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With the one drawback that they aren't too bassy, the RE-400 meets all of your other criteria.  I would highly consider them.

Just one question........... Will they stand up to heavy abuse like being crushed under books and being wrapped around an ipod?

 

[warrenpchi]

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With the one drawback that they aren't too bassy, the RE-400 meets all of your other criteria.  I would highly consider them.

 
Just one question........... Will they stand up to heavy abuse like being crushed under books and being wrapped around an ipod?

 

I don't think that even I could stand up to that for very long, and I'm tough as nails. 

 

[audiotechkid]

There's a chance that it might not be bassy enough for you, but otherwise the RE-400 should be a close enough match, particularly in terms of the forward mids and relaxed treble.

Do you have any other recommendations as it Is mainly the bass and midrange that I am looking for. I do not want an overly relaxed treble, I just want something that does not sound harsh in the trebles as I hate the overly bright and harsh trebles of the ath-ckm500.Thanks in advance.

 

[Argyris]

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Well highest I can hear is 18kHz so I guess it's not even close to 25kHz but I thought that if the earbuds are able to go that high then at around 20kHz or so won't roll off. Also if the Shure is 25hz then won't it roll off before that? So basicly if the Sony can go down to 5hz then it would not roll off around 20hz?

 
Theoretically, frequency response limits should be defined by the points at each end of the range where the output from the transducer falls 3 dB below baseline (usually normalized to the level at 1 kHz) without rising again thereafter. I say should be because, in reality, there is no mandated/regulated standard for this and companies can and do routinely define their frequency bandwidth starting at 10 dB or more below baseline. This creates highly inflated and misleading specs, especially since human hearing loses acuity at the extremes. Basically, if your earphone design is outputting 10 dB below baseline at 25 Hz that response is negligible and will be inaudible in any practical application, even if the manufacturer, using a mere technicality, claims the earphone can produce sound in that region.
 
The long and short is to not pay much attention to manufacturer quoted frequency specs. They, like megapixels, gigahertz, and other marketing friendly numbers, are seldom an indication of a product's performance.
 
Something tells me you might find similar information and responses in this thread:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/534324/affordable-sony-studio-headphones

 

[billybob_jcv]

Just one question........... Will they stand up to heavy abuse like being crushed under books and being wrapped around an ipod?

No set of IEMs is going to last in that environment. It might be 2 months or 4 years, but sooner or later they will break a stem, crack the housing or the sound will begin cutting out due to wire fatigue at a connection point. It comes with the territory - and the worse you treat them the sooner they are *likely* to have a problem. Doesn't mean they will - but if you keep punching someone in the stomach, sooner or later you are going to get puke on your shoes...

 

[feigenbaum]

Hello All. I need help with finding a new pair of headphones. 
 
My current headphones are Klipsch Image ONE, that I originally bought because of the in-line controls and for portability. They have been decent, but the in-line controls no longer work and the ear cups can be annoying (too small and detach easily). I considered buying the newer version, but I wanted to see what else was out there and with better sound quality. I will be commuting by public transportation (Chicago) this coming school year and I will be spending time in a photo darkroom, so in-line controls are a must. I have bad luck with headphone cables. I tend to get them stuck in things, drop them in water, etc. So either a detachable cable, if possible with in-line controls or a decent warranty. Thanks in advance 

 
Portable
On-ear
open or closed, I listen to everything from ska to rap music to dance music
using with mostly with iPhone 5, iPod classic, MacBook Pro
In-line controls
detachable cable, if possible 
under 200$, 250$ max, if an amp can be used 


 

 

[FrequencyBlue]

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Just one question........... Will they stand up to heavy abuse like being crushed under books and being wrapped around an ipod?

If you are going to treat your IEMs like that, you better buy a dirt cheap ones TBH.
 
Hell, I even buy carrying case for my $13 SHE3580 and $23 FX40, 

 

[slowpickr]

Wanting to upgrade my JVC FX101s.  Looking for more clarity and detail with similar strong bass. Thought about Soundmagic E10 and Vsonic GR02 Bass Edition.  However, after reading a thread started by a Mr. DS Nuts, I'm seriously thinking about a Sony XB60EX (XB90EX is out of $40 budget) and the JVC FX40. The FX40's are such a good deal I'm seriously considering them.  Wondering though if any of the others (especially the Sony) would be better for synth pop and electronica in general?  Thanks.

 

[billybob_jcv]

Theoretically, frequency response limits should be defined by the points at each end of the range where the output from the transducer falls 3 dB below baseline (usually normalized to the level at 1 kHz) without rising again thereafter. I say should be because, in reality, there is no mandated/regulated standard for this and companies can and do routinely define their frequency bandwidth starting at 10 dB or more below baseline. This creates highly inflated and misleading specs, especially since human hearing loses acuity at the extremes. Basically, if your earphone design is outputting 10 dB below baseline at 25 Hz that response is negligible and will be inaudible in any practical application, even if the manufacturer, using a mere technicality, claims the earphone can produce sound in that region.

The long and short is to not pay much attention to manufacturer quoted frequency specs. They, like megapixels, gigahertz, and other marketing friendly numbers, are seldom an indication of a product's performance.

Something tells me you might find similar information and responses in this thread:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/534324/affordable-sony-studio-headphones

Right - if the frequency response does not explicitly say the +/- range, then it should be assumed to be a completely useless specification, and two specs with different constraints should never be compared. If headphone A says "35 Hz - 17 KHz +/- 3 dB" and headphone B says "18 Hz - 25 KHz +/- 6 dB" - you *still* should NOT compare those two specs.

Oh, and lets not forget the sample rate of a FR graph. You can get two *completely* different graphs by sampling every 5 Hz vs every 250 Hz. And you can also bet that nearly all manufacturers "smooth" the graphs on the back of the box (if there is a graph) so that you can't tell the sampling rates and to also tame "outlier" data points. IMHO, FR graphs are interesting to look at in order to try to correlate what you hear with what the graph says - but that's about it. Of course, even that takes discipline - it is all to easy to convince yourself that you can hear what the graph says. As long as you don't take it too seriously, it is a fun game.

 

[FrequencyBlue]

^
^ I had a chance to try XB60EX, and while they do have bass, the mid is also muddy as hell, I suggest staying away from it

 

[slowpickr]

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^ I had a chance to try XB60EX, and while they do have bass, the mid is also muddy as hell, I suggest staying away from it

Thanks for the quick response.  I definitely don't want "muddy" anything.  FX40's might be the ticket.

 

[audiotechkid]

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Do you have any other recommendations as it Is mainly the bass and midrange that I am looking for. I do not want an overly relaxed treble, I just want something that does not sound harsh in the trebles as I hate the overly bright and harsh trebles of the ath-ckm500.Thanks in advance.

Guys?

 

[FrequencyBlue]

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Thanks for the quick response.  I definitely don't want "muddy" anything.  FX40's might be the ticket.

FX40 is a good choice, If you are not sensitive to treble
these inears start to make me a treblehead, lol