[fuzzybaffy]

So you're saying the wood cups have nothing to do with the TH-900 sound? I always assumed they did, going by the way certain instruments reverberate and sound (in particular drums, and acoustic string instruments). If not, the TH-900 do still indeed sound great with electronica. 

 

[up late]

i had a discussion with defbear about this starting on page 869

 

[jincuteguy]

  Oh my goodness... Did I really say that the TH-900 isn't good for electronic dance music? 
 
Because I just turned on this album (on CD, of course - just showing a youtube link so people can check it out): 
 

 
 
And it sounds fantastic on my TH-900. I guess it's those wooden cups... it gives the bass-kicks a nice, satisfying feel. I tend to like nightclubs with wooden floors, because the bass sounds better, and I'm guessing wood helps with headphones as well! 

 
If you want really good EDM Progressive Trance, check out these ones.  You'll be blown away using the TH900 

 

 

 

[fuzzybaffy]

i had a discussion with defbear about this starting on page 869

 
Seems to me it's all inconclusive? I read the one user saying he couldn't hear the difference between the different woods for the Lawton cups, but that doesn't tell us whether there's a difference between wood and let's say, magnesium cups like on the TH-600. 
 
But I have to assume there is a difference - the TH-X00 must have gone wood for a reason. And then there are the Purplehearts, whose product description makes it seem like the Purpleheart wood was chosen specifically for its acoustic properties: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00-purpleheart-headphones
 

The density of purpleheart wood makes it excellent for reducing acoustic resonance. As a result, the sub-bass through bass is increased ~2 dB, while following the same curve as the original, which peaks at 50 Hz. The lower midrange is decreased by ~5 dB, and while the mahogany version had a slight peak at ~600 Hz, the purpleheart has a smoother climb from 500 to 1000 Hz. The midrange proper is essentially identical to that of the mahogany, the upper midrange is ~2 dB less throughout, and the highs are slightly more emphasized. Peaks and valleys are positioned differently than on the mahogany, but their magnitude is similar. As for the super highs, while the mahogany falls off at ~14 kHz, the purpleheart maintains presence through that range. Finally, CSD graphs of the mahogany showed some resonance at 3,000 and 6,000 Hz; these are all but eliminated in the purpleheart.

 
It's also possible differences can be heard between certain woods (so, Mahogany vs. Purpleheart for the TH-X00), but not others (the different wood used in the Lawton cups). 

 

[AppleheadMay]

  So you're saying the wood cups have nothing to do with the TH-900 sound? I always assumed they did, going by the way certain instruments reverberate and sound (in particular drums, and acoustic string instruments). If not, the TH-900 do still indeed sound great with electronica. 

i had a discussion with defbear about this starting on page 869

 
 
Or about every few hundred pages ... 

 

[fuzzybaffy]

Every few hundred... considering this thread was started in 2012, and has a total of ~900 pages, then every few hundred would mean once a year or so. And considering I bought my TH-900 the winter of 2015, I guess it's plausible I missed one of those discussions. 

 

 

[AppleheadMay]

  Every few hundred... considering this thread was started in 2012, and has a total of ~900 pages, then every few hundred would mean once a year or so. And considering I bought my TH-900 the winter of 2015, I guess it's plausible I missed one of those discussions. 

 

 
 
Meaning we have to repost everything we posted before 2015 since you bought yours then?
 
We have a pretty nice "search this thread" function here you know?
 

 
 
Simply typing "wood" in there turns up 13 pages with resluts. Beats going through going 900+ pages but still gives you plenty of info on what you might be looking for.
 
I'm pretty sure the guy who invented this awesome search function is the same one who invented hot water! 

 

[fuzzybaffy]

Oh come on... if you spoke for yourself, then you wouldn't had your most recent conversation about the wood cups yourself. Cause you'd know everyone would use the search function. 

 

 

[AppleheadMay]

Yeah, you're kinda right,
 
But having followed this thread for years (and also the recent discussion on other wood cups, here or in the V2 thread) sometimes makes it seem like a record that's on repeat.
 
I am guilty of it myself from time to time as well though, but sometimes I use the in-thread search function as well and from time to time some nice results turn up and let me know what I want to know. Just a tip this time.
 
So I give you absolution from your terrible sin. 

 

 

[up late]

Seems to me it's all inconclusive? I read the one user saying he couldn't hear the difference between the different woods for the Lawton cups, but that doesn't tell us whether there's a difference between wood and let's say, magnesium cups like on the TH-600. 

But I have to assume there is a difference - the TH-X00 must have gone wood for a reason. And then there are the Purplehearts, whose product description makes it seem like the Purpleheart wood was chosen specifically for its acoustic properties: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00-purpleheart-headphones


It's also possible differences can be heard between certain woods (so, Mahogany vs. Purpleheart for the TH-X00), but not others (the different wood used in the Lawton cups). 

yes, it's inconclusive and it will remain so until these claims/beliefs are scientifically proven - as I said earlier. until then, i remain sceptical that well damped wooden ear cups can impart a tonal character to the sound that the drivers are reproducing.

 

[fuzzybaffy]

  Yeah, you're kinda right,
 
But having followed this thread for years (and also the recent discussion on other wood cups, here or in the V2 thread) sometimes makes it seem like a record that's on repeat.
 
I am guilty of it myself from time to time as well though, but sometimes I use the in-thread search function as well and from time to time some nice results turn up and let me know what I want to know. Just a tip this time.
 

 
Well, like I said, I've only been involved in this thread for the past few months. And it's kind of hard for people to know ahead of time which topics have resurfaced in threads over and over, unless they're pinned/stickied in the first page of the thread. Topics resurfacing over and over happens a lot in forums for that very reason. 
 
And looking at the first page... the word "wood" comes up merely 3 times, and not in the context of whether it has an affect on the sound signature. That's hardly a clue as to how frequently the topic comes up. 
 
 

 So I give you absolution from your terrible sin. 

 

 
 
You go on believing what you want about yourself. 

 

 

[AppleheadMay]

yes, it's inconclusive and it will remain so until these claims/beliefs are scientifically proven. until then, i remain sceptical that well damped wooden ear cups can impart a tonal character to the sound that the drivers are reproducing.

Or the way I look at is: technically proven, if Inhear, or think I hear a difference then it's there for me.
Have tested different wooden cups and only the size mattered to me (doesn't it always ), not the type of wood.
Never tried any non-wooden cups on a TH-900 though.
A second thing that is important for me, in all my gear, hifi related or not is that I like it to look good as well.
I prefer the look of anything looking woody or vintage.

 

[up late]

Or about every few hundred pages ... 

yep. it's another old chestnut that comes up periodically here.

 

[up late]

Or the way I look at is: technically proven, if Inhear, or think I hear a difference then it's there for me.
Have tested different wooden cups and only the size mattered to me (doesn't it always ), not the type of wood.
Never tried any non-wooden cups on a TH-900 though.
A second thing that is important for me, in all my gear, hifi related or not is that I like it to look good as well.
I prefer the look of anything looking woody or vintage.

its not technically proven but it's proof enough for you. i'm drawn to the look and feel of woodied cans too.

 

[fuzzybaffy]

yep. it's another old chestnut that comes up periodically here.

 
Ok, guys. I'll make sure to use the search function for every single question I have before posting them. Like you guys do, I'm sure. (Yea... right).