Creative's Recon 3d, Sound core3d, any one try one out?

Feb 5, 2012 at 2:58 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 9

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Well, Creative's new sound core3d has been out for a couple of months now and there is very little info out about it. Based on what I've heard it doesn't appear to support any sort of hardware acceleration. What I have been wondering is what features have been added and what is missing from x-fi. How does thx tru-studio differ from cmss3d? Does it take positional cues from open al or DS3D like cmss3d does or is it like dolby headphone where it just downmixes a 5.1 or 7.1 signal?
 
This does seem like the replacement for creative's X-fi that seems to have been discontinued. 
 
Feb 5, 2012 at 4:01 PM Post #3 of 9


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Well, Creative's new sound core3d has been out for a couple of months now and there is very little info out about it. Based on what I've heard it doesn't appear to support any sort of hardware acceleration. What I have been wondering is what features have been added and what is missing from x-fi. How does thx tru-studio differ from cmss3d? Does it take positional cues from open al or DS3D like cmss3d does or is it like dolby headphone where it just downmixes a 5.1 or 7.1 signal?
This does seem like the replacement for creative's X-fi that seems to have been discontinued. 

I'm guessing(?) Creative Labs "renamed" features that were on older cards for the newer Recon3D.
The Titanium HD appears to be a better sound card (spec wise) then the newer Recon3D.
 
 
 
 
Feb 5, 2012 at 5:58 PM Post #4 of 9
Thats what it sounds like. I've been hearing people claim that thx tru-studio is some renamed variant of cmss-3d or whatever but to me on my Titanium HD it does sound different than cmss3d. Does cmss3d in entertainment mode on a normal x-fi sound the same as it does in game mode?
 
I have no doubts that the titanium hd is the better dsp. 
 
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I'm guessing(?) Creative Labs "renamed" features that were on older cards for the newer Recon3D.
The Titanium HD appears to be a better sound card (spec wise) then the newer Recon3D.
 
 
 



 
 
Mar 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM Post #5 of 9
Srsly no one knows anything about this card? 
 
i personally doubt that it doesnt do its own processing the thing is huge! but i would love to know how much Ohms can it kick out, i am planning on buying an M11x in may but would need to kick its sound quality up a bit.
 
plz if anyone knows anything about this plz share :)
 
Mar 20, 2012 at 10:16 AM Post #6 of 9
Creative says:
The Sound Core3D is a high-performance hardware audio processor, with high-quality analog playback and recording and low power consumption, all highly integrated in a low-cost solution.

 
If there were any impressive technical measurements, Creative would shout them from the rooftops.
 
There is a reason that all sound cards that set a great value on sound quality take care to separate the digital and analog processing stages.
 
Mar 20, 2012 at 10:00 PM Post #7 of 9
I had this card, replaced with an STX and never looked back. The Recon 3D was good for gaming and sounded better than on-board sound. Recon 3D is nothing special. 
 
Mar 20, 2012 at 10:19 PM Post #8 of 9
I'd like to get down to the bottom of this myself, but I'm not willing to spend that much on a sound card only to turn around and sell it later at a loss, in all likeliness. Unlike most people on Head-Fi, my wallet's rather thin.
 
In particular, what I want to figure out is whether or not it loses any gaming DSP features coming from the X-Fi line. A little RightMark 3DSound testing can sort all of that out...
 
Mar 20, 2012 at 10:39 PM Post #9 of 9
The PCIe Recon3D is an absurdly overpriced rebranding of the XtremeAudio series, meaning it lacks hardware acceleration, hardware OpenAL, but Creative seems to have implemented EAX 5 through software exclusively on this card, which isn't much of a concern since real X-Fi cards do it in hardware. It's a fake X-Fi with tons of make-up.
 
Basically, it's the first foray of Creative into the current gen onboard audio chip market, while cards like X-Fi Titanium, cards based on real X-Fi DSPs and the X-Fi Titanium HD are the cards go to with.
 

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