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jk1 said:

How does the Sony E888 compare to the PK2? Do you think any of the very old discontinued models are better than the MX980?

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I want to buy the E888. I think I'll buy them the next time I go to Japan. I know a headphone shop in Tokyo that has a very good selection of new and second hand headphones. Then I can compare.
 
I have only listened to the MX980 for a few minutes in the headphone store in Tokyo. I want to buy the MX980, but I think it's too expensive right now. I hope the price will drop. If it is an old and rare vintage earbud, I have no problems paying $200 or more if it's working well. It's a collectors item and I don't know when I'll come across one again. If it's a modern earbud and it will not be discontinued soon, I am not prepared to spend as much.
 
I don't think that the older earbuds beat the MX980. But I don't think the MX980 walks all over them. Some people prefer the Yuin PK1 or the Blox TM5, some prefer the MX980. The PK1 is described as having a more laid back tube amp like sound while the MX980 is more forward. It depends on your preferences. I don't think there's a perfect earbud. But I think there are earbuds that can be very good at either creating a good sound, be it bassy or airy or full of treble, or they can create a relatively neutral sound.

Hmm, I'm really interested in the Yuin OK1 as far as expensive modern day earbuds go. I'd don't really care to use it with the iem's inserts though, kinda silly.

This was a week ago, but I just wanted to add - the PK1 is still fantastic. It competes very highly with my best much more modern bang/buck champion IEMs in the same price range. However, like many other earbuds, its most fatal flaw is its lack of sub bass extension. I'm sure there are earbuds now that gives decent sub bass extension, but the PK1 is still an amazing sounding earbud today.

mx980 and akg k319 have no issues in playing the deepbass section.

mx980 have totally no issues in playing deep bass. still the best earbud to date in my opinion bar none

Thats what i said

Hisoundaudios Paa1 is only $19 and is by far the best overall value to date.

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swbf2cheater said:

Hisoundaudios Paa1 is only $19 and is by far the best overall value to date.

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No offense, but I prefer iBuds to the PAA-1 (and the Hisound Live as well).

ibuds have half the soundstage and far less bass, no offense taken at all

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swbf2cheater said:

ibuds have half the soundstage and far less bass, no offense taken at all

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Well, if you can seat the iBuds properly (which I admit is a serious pain) - you WILL get better overall sound quality (in my humble opinion). I really think iBuds are seriously underrated, but whatever floats your boat right?

Yuin PK-1 need an amp, with amp they are the best - without an amp the PK-2s are the best 

I do agree that they really need an amp to shine. I listen to them also straight from the IPhone but the sound is not as good. The combo with the FiiO E-11 works really well for me.

PK1 shows it's potential under a desktop amp. I m amazed by how good this little earbud can be.

I bought a pair of MX580s as they were on sale for $19, and I have to admit for that price they are not bad at all. I find they have more bass than PK2s but might be not as detailed, (not by much).
 
Blox'x M2C's are still king in my castle for clarity, sound stage and details...  

Why is Yuin PK1 so expensive?
I cannot find anywhere what driver they use apart from the specs.
Heard they pair perfectly with the Tera Player.