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post #151 of 571
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I more I listen with the EX600, the more I feel it is not suitable for classical music. The violin sound is not good at high note. I feel it boring listening to classical music with the sound being technical and unnatural. Maybe it is better for other genres.

post #152 of 571
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Originally Posted by lostid View Post

I more I listen with the EX600, the more I feel it is not suitable for classical music. The violin sound is not good at high note. I feel it boring listening to classical music with the sound being technical and unnatural. Maybe it is better for other genres.



Well, the EX600s are known for their grainy highs and not so wide soundstage, both which are pretty essential for classical. I personally feel it's better for pop, pop rock and rock. 

post #153 of 571
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Originally Posted by Jeremypsp View Post

Well, the EX600s are known for their grainy highs and not so wide soundstage, both which are pretty essential for classical.

 

Funny, I think the soundstage width on the Sonys is extraordinary for IEMs. I've even had someone PM me and complain that it's unnaturally wide. If anything, they lack a little bit in depth imo. As for the highs, there are some who seem to be bothered by treble spikes and others who are not. Your phrasing makes it sound like there was a general consensus, which I believe is not correct.

post #154 of 571
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

 

Funny, I think the soundstage width on the Sonys is extraordinary for IEMs. I've even had someone PM me and complain that it's unnaturally wide. If anything, they lack a little bit in depth imo. As for the highs, there are some who seem to be bothered by treble spikes and others who are not. Your phrasing makes it sound like there was a general consensus, which I believe is not correct.



I see, maybe I heard it a little wrongly. But I don't think it's sound stage is as wide as the IE6 or 7. 

post #155 of 571
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Since this is the first IEM I ever owned, I have no other IEM to compare except my earbuds. Now it's been a few weeks since I received the EX600, I still choose the earbuds when it comes to classical music. It just makes me so relaxed with the genuine and natural sound - especially for the violin. On the other hand, I am intense and feel "forced" to listen with the EX600.

 

Personally I think too much mechanical (in my term) sound clarity may not be a good thing. This mechanical sound clarity may be the reason that I feel the IEM does not produce genuine or natural sound in music. When the sound is not genuine or natural, it brings fatigue to my brain and ears.

 

Well hope the Sennheiser MX 980 won't disappoint me.

post #156 of 571

Well, it's a matter of preference and yours seem to be towards a more laid-back sound signature. Very likely the Sennheiser sound will suit you better. You could try foam tips like Shure Olives or Complys with your EX600 though, they should calm down the highs a bit.

post #157 of 571
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Originally Posted by lostid View Post

Since this is the first IEM I ever owned, I have no other IEM to compare except my earbuds. Now it's been a few weeks since I received the EX600, I still choose the earbuds when it comes to classical music. It just makes me so relaxed with the genuine and natural sound - especially for the violin. On the other hand, I am intense and feel "forced" to listen with the EX600.

 

Personally I think too much mechanical (in my term) sound clarity may not be a good thing. This mechanical sound clarity may be the reason that I feel the IEM does not produce genuine or natural sound in music. When the sound is not genuine or natural, it brings fatigue to my brain and ears.

 

Well hope the Sennheiser MX 980 won't disappoint me.


Yea I think you'd like the IE80s much better. If you wanna go on the cheaper side get a refurbished pair of IE7s from adgtron if they still have them in stock for $100.00. FX700 also have a very natural sound but its more forceful as well. Now if the EX600 is anything like it the EX1000 for me it is way more forceful than the FX700 and that is due to the treble spike. Its like grinding razor blades across a chalk-board (just that bad for me)....

 

post #158 of 571
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

Well, it's a matter of preference and yours seem to be towards a more laid-back sound signature. Very likely the Sennheiser sound will suit you better. You could try foam tips like Shure Olives or Complys with your EX600 though, they should calm down the highs a bit.


Yeah each individual responds to the same sound differently. I will wait for the Sennheiser before trying anything else.

 

 

 

post #159 of 571
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Yea I think you'd like the IE80s much better. If you wanna go on the cheaper side get a refurbished pair of IE7s from adgtron if they still have them in stock for $100.00. FX700 also have a very natural sound but its more forceful as well. Now if the EX600 is anything like it the EX1000 for me it is way more forceful than the FX700 and that is due to the treble spike. Its like grinding razor blades across a chalk-board (just that bad for me)....

 

I am willing to invest on getting the sound I like. The problem is you never know until you try. Like you said if I recall, someone's favorite may be your nightmare.

 

Although this is my only IEM, I start to smell something similar with the IEM's -  too technical or too mechanical sound to achieve the clarity or separation. This may not be good news for classical music while it is preferred for other genres.

 

 

 


 

 

post #160 of 571

You'd be surprised how different an IEM can sound to another IEM. There are great differences in sound signatures.
 

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I am willing to invest on getting the sound I like. The problem is you never know until you try. Like you said if I recall, someone's favorite may be your nightmare.

 

Although this is my only IEM, I start to smell something similar with the IEM's -  too technical or too mechanical sound to achieve the clarity or separation. This may not be good news for classical music while it is preferred for other genres.

 

 

 


 

 



 

post #161 of 571
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Yea I think you'd like the IE80s much better. If you wanna go on the cheaper side get a refurbished pair of IE7s from adgtron if they still have them in stock for $100.00. FX700 also have a very natural sound but its more forceful as well. Now if the EX600 is anything like it the EX1000 for me it is way more forceful than the FX700 and that is due to the treble spike. Its like grinding razor blades across a chalk-board (just that bad for me)....

 


I got "lucky" and bought the IE7's refurbished but for $50 = £36 - sold them on now - but $100 is a bit too much for refurbished pairs.

 

I bought the monster turbines for $50 = and I've been very very happy with them - glad I went ahead and bought them from the monster outlet store.

So if your looking at the IE7's I would say unless you want sound stage ONLY, the MT's beat the IE7's in all aspects = this is my opinion.

Also, the IE7's had no bass for me, whereas the MT's have booming bass :)

 

 

post #162 of 571
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I got "lucky" and bought the IE7's refurbished but for $50 = £36 - sold them on now - but $100 is a bit too much for refurbished pairs.

 

I bought the monster turbines for $50 = and I've been very very happy with them - glad I went ahead and bought them from the monster outlet store.

So if your looking at the IE7's I would say unless you want sound stage ONLY, the MT's beat the IE7's in all aspects = this is my opinion.

Also, the IE7's had no bass for me, whereas the MT's have booming bass :)

 

 


I agree the Monster Turbines are good, only problem I have with them is the horrendous fit and laid-back mids. I would think the IE7 is better in these 2 aspects, but the highs aren't as good. I would prefer the bass on the IE7 more though. 

 

post #163 of 571
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I agree the Monster Turbines are good, only problem I have with them is the horrendous fit and laid-back mids. I would think the IE7 is better in these 2 aspects, but the highs aren't as good. I would prefer the bass on the IE7 more though. 

 


I found that unless you shove the ie7's with some triple flange's they didn't give me literally any bass - i mean even stock apple earbuds gave me more bass (back int he day) so fit with the ie7's was a really issue - seeing as they are earphones that sit more on your ear if that makes sense (and due to their design) it means that unless you get a proper tip will you be able to get any bass what so ever. That said, even with them inserted (pushed in fully with right tips) my initial impressions of the Monster turbine's wow'ed me - the ie7's made me go....ah yeah...this crap again (from ie8 experience lol)

 

MT's for $50 > IE7's at $50 - MT's fit was perfect for me, no problems, just can't use the stock tips provided (olive shaped ones) - put some comply's on it and your a happy bunny.

 

Either or, I sold my IE7's, and have the MT's as backup - my main pair are my TFTA 1XB's

 

 

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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post




I found that unless you shove the ie7's with some triple flange's they didn't give me literally any bass - i mean even stock apple earbuds gave me more bass (back int he day) so fit with the ie7's was a really issue - seeing as they are earphones that sit more on your ear if that makes sense (and due to their design) it means that unless you get a proper tip will you be able to get any bass what so ever. That said, even with them inserted (pushed in fully with right tips) my initial impressions of the Monster turbine's wow'ed me - the ie7's made me go....ah yeah...this crap again (from ie8 experience lol)

 

MT's for $50 > IE7's at $50 - MT's fit was perfect for me, no problems, just can't use the stock tips provided (olive shaped ones) - put some comply's on it and your a happy bunny.

 

Either or, I sold my IE7's, and have the MT's as backup - my main pair are my TFTA 1XB's

 

 

 

I'm just curious if you have small ears? I really think you had major fit issues with the IE7s. Those things fit so well into my ear that they actually fit too well. My ear would pretty much eat them up while in your case it seems the driver was too big for your ears. I found the bass to be about even with the IE8 on stock settings and no mid bass issues. The IE7s also has a wonderful mid range that I feel rivals the SE530s. Treble was more it's weak point and bass could use more control. I'd say the quality of bass though is better than the coppers.

post #165 of 571
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The order for the Sennheiser MX 980 was canceled. Thanks to Amazon for doing nothing about the order for 3  days.

 

Here is the confession:

 

The EX600 has finally taken over the earbuds. I have not used the buds for the last 3 days. I don't know if this kicked in due to more burn-ins (brain and the toy), but right now I really enjoys the music with the EX600. While I wish the highs could be a little less harsh, I also realize that some of the stuff may have something to do with the recording quality and the lower bitrates. Therefore, I am converting everything to the 320 kbps. My computer is probably overheated doing this and it scares me to hear the noise from the fans running.

 

I almost ordered the IE80 (thanks to lee730 for the info) but now I put that on hold as well. For now I just want to enjoy the music with the EX600. I know I will get another pairs in the near future to extend my enjoyment of listening to the music.

 

I bought my son a Beats Studio (knowing a overpriced mediocre headphone) since he likes it. Now I have convinced him of retuning it and getting a better headphone and IEM instead. He mostly listens to hip-hop, pop and rap. Any recommendations are appreciated.

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