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Dec 6, 2012 at 1:16 AM Post #5,446 of 101,018
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Wow Ghost. You seem to really enjoy that Ele dac..I knew it would be a hit but I had no idea..Glad your digging that $18 sound. Lol. Who would have ever thought. The truth is it kinda makes sense. Those sound chips in DACs really don't cost much. And if you get a smart Chines guy with the bright idea to make a nice cheap dac that sounds great using a real minimum design that more than does the job. You get the Ele which guys will be completely surprised about once they hear it.

Just arrived! Doing an A/B with my "soundflowered" headphone out from the iMac. Two words, SOUNDSTAGE and CLARITY... wow! 
 
Has anybody tried this with the Galaxy S3?  I don't have an OTG cable at the moment.
 
Dsnuts, thanks a lot for this! Time to get a good portable amp.
 
 

 
Dec 6, 2012 at 4:51 AM Post #5,447 of 101,018
Hi Ds, check this out...
 
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12AU7-JRC4556-Valve-driven-cmoy-RA-1-headphone-amplifier-real-tube-warm-sound-/200807704603?pt=AU_Electronics_Audio_Amplifiers&hash=item2ec112681b
 
I've just bought one, should be interesting!!
 

What do you think??
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Looks pretty awesome, this fella does/sells other amps as well...!
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Dec 6, 2012 at 8:33 AM Post #5,448 of 101,018
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Just arrived! Doing an A/B with my "soundflowered" headphone out from the iMac. Two words, SOUNDSTAGE and CLARITY... wow! 
 
Has anybody tried this with the Galaxy S3?  I don't have an OTG cable at the moment.
 
Dsnuts, thanks a lot for this! Time to get a good portable amp.
 
 

 
 
Zorros or Beats?
 
Dec 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM Post #5,452 of 101,018
Zoro's of course. :)
 
I tried it directly with my SR60i's but it clips at the lower notes. The Zoro's are very efficient and can be driven well using by the DAC.
 
Dec 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM Post #5,453 of 101,018
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Zoro's of course. :)
 
I tried it directly with my SR60i's but it clips at the lower notes. The Zoro's are very efficient and can be driven well using by the DAC:)
 

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  nice! 
 
seems like prices are dropping, they are $75.00 on amazon, those are in my radar even if they look like beats!
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Dec 6, 2012 at 4:00 PM Post #5,455 of 101,018
I have the Bravo V2, and love it.  I believe it's the same circuit as the Ocean, but cased very differently.
 
I JUST got my ELE DAC, like 30 minutes ago.
What a neat little package it is!  Giving it an initial listen with the XBA-3's playing Jimmy Buffet "Far Side of the World" (my favorite test cd)
Sounds wonderful on a rainy December afternoon.
VERY initial thoughts....it's on a par with the Fiio E10 & Nuforce  iDac maybe (both of those are out on loan)  I think the FiiO E17 beats the ELE by a decent margin, but the Audioquest Dragonfly sounds much cleaner (at almost 20X the cost)
Sounding very enjoyable for $18!
~BG
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@ Volly. That looks like a good little tube amp to drive them dacs. And nice n cheap too. Bravo also makes some cheaper tube amps as well.

 
Dec 6, 2012 at 4:32 PM Post #5,457 of 101,018
Yeah, Jimmy is sounding sweet.  Nice, punchy bass and drums.  Great detail on guitar, and the violin parts are awesome.
I may have to order a couple more for Christmas gifts.  Where do I find a color other than black?
This already gets my Thumbs up!
 

 
 
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Aha BG you couldn't resist the temptation of a good sounding $18 dac. Nice.. Glad to see you guys getting your Eles. And it seems so far no real defects.

 
Dec 6, 2012 at 4:44 PM Post #5,458 of 101,018
See now this is what it's all about. Even if the rest of you guys hate them BG here gives them the big thumbs up. That is all the endorsement anyone needs. I bet you guys didn't know. BG here is actually Chris Cringle himself Lol! Nice pic. If you log onto ebay and type in Ele Dac you can see the various colors. I like the silvers myself. Adds a bit of class to that dac.
 
Dec 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM Post #5,459 of 101,018
Thanks!
That blue would match your Bravo.
Color coordinated audio.
Yep, it's all good this time of year!
~BG
 
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See now this is what it's all about. Even if the rest of you guys hate them BG here gives them the big thumbs up. That is all the endorsement anyone needs. I bet you guys didn't know. BG here is actually Chris Cringle himself Lol! Nice pic. If you log onto ebay and type in Ele Dac you can see the various colors. I like the silvers myself. Adds a bit of class to that dac.

 
Dec 6, 2012 at 4:59 PM Post #5,460 of 101,018
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Just checked, the built in MP3 player is just as good as the Sansa clip playing the same 256kbps MP3 files. Note that the built in player does not support Wav, only MP3 files up to 320KBPS.
 
I do not like listening to raw output from generic on board PC sound cards, they sound too synthetic and raw, the built in player is much better compared to generic PC sound cards.
I just received the ELE DAC and this provides a decent audiophile level listening experience using the PC/Laptop as a DAP.
 
Playing thru the ELE, I was A/Bing the S500 and 8801 earlier, initial thoughts were that the 8801 sucks big time with the ELE DAC, The S500 were loud to the point that the trebles was giving me problems and I had to reduce the volume, plugging the 8801 in next I was really disappointed with the SQ, that lovely bass has gone recessed, the mids gone flat and the treble lost it's spackle, not even a shadow to the S500.
Foolishly, I realise that the volume wasn't equalize to the S500 due to their rather balanced response, upon increasing the volume the 8801 came back on full song and oh what a glorious song it was.
I was surprised how much I could increase the volume without the sounds getting distorted or the trebles spikes killing my ears. I think the 8801 phones has higher impedences then the S500, they certainly needed a much higher volume in order to match the S500.
 
So I learnt a few lessons today:
 
1) A cheap DAC does not mean low quality sound.
 
2) 8801 needs higher volume to sound their best compared to CNT S500.
 
3) Phones with a balanced FR can fool you into thinking they just as loud as a V signature phone at the same volume setting.
 
4) CNT drivers CAN be sibilance depending on your setup. (really! ....I never had anything sharp poke my eardrums til today !)

Thanks Ghostfit. Now I really need to buy one.
 
Now other really entry level question to Ghostfit or Dsnuts. Does this ELE DAC has better output sound quality than Sansa clip or Sony Z player? I don't remember anyone mention it.
 
Thanks for all your help!
 

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