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Aug 17, 2013 at 4:08 PM Post #13,173 of 101,045
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My S2s is also another reason why I am going to return these. I don't necessarily feel the KEF M200s are leaps above in SQ over my S2. Using my X3 with these 2. Both sound excellent and I will not miss having the M200s.

So, what would you recon as a real next step IEM then? I have the S2, but I'm looking for a replacement with a lot better isolation (both in and out) and something that is next step in terms of SQ. I kinda like the signature of the S2 but might want something more neutral. I listen to a super wide range of music styles (just good music 
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: my only criteria). Looking at SE425s but also ER4PTs. What do you think?
 
My 1st post, BTW. :wink:
 
Aug 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM Post #13,176 of 101,045
I'm currently just awaiting more reviews and impressions as I unfortunately don't have the money to purchase all of the IEMs I'm looking at as possible upgrades from my Carbo Basso. I like the sound signature and the bass quantity is fine for me (Are the Bassos considered as being bassy heavy?). My shortlist:
 
Philips Fidelio S2
Audio Technica ATH-CKS1000
RHA MA750
Onkyo IE-HF300
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 12:20 AM Post #13,179 of 101,045
Okay, found a second tip that works well with the M200 if you really want EVEN MORE bass and the vocals even more forward. Wow! It's bit of a struggle getting them on the nozzle though (you have to put the tip down on the nozzle evenly then twist it down into position. 

Oh, the tips are the large Senn. double-flanges from the IE-8. It makes the M200 a bit of a bass monster, so this tip might not be for everyone, but M200 doesn't move inside my ears at all with these tips. So I like the stock, UE900 and the Senn tips. 
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 12:42 AM Post #13,180 of 101,045
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So, what would you recon as a real next step IEM then? I have the S2, but I'm looking for a replacement with a lot better isolation (both in and out) and something that is next step in terms of SQ. I kinda like the signature of the S2 but might want something more neutral. I listen to a super wide range of music styles (just good music 
smily_headphones1.gif
: my only criteria). Looking at SE425s but also ER4PTs. What do you think?
 
My 1st post, BTW. :wink:

 
Never tried those you mentioned but I just ordered the new Onkyo earphones. Don't know if they will be more neutral over the S2. You might like the RE-400.
 
Will let you guys know how I hear the Onkyos.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 1:13 AM Post #13,181 of 101,045
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soooo, how's the M5, DS ?

 
I have them in my ears as I am typing.. I do like these over the R1s. They are not bad for free. I would put the sound quality at their going rate..Decent balance the mids are not as forward as I would like. A touch on the U side of sound with good but not outstanding definition. They remind me of Soundmagic sound tuning actually. I am so used to the wide stage of the S2. Other earphones seem lacking.
 
These are average for in ears for stage and depth. They lack resolution of higher end in ears of course but for casual listening. If these ever go on sale are not bad. The bass end is strong on these not quite NE-700 strong but right up there.  Mids are not as forward from memory and bit on the dry side of sound..Bass while strong is not the quickest or the most defined but decent. The mids presentation is not as open or forward with less detail than I would like but beyond that. They have a decent enough sound. For a free pack in I will keep em..These are the type of earphones you can give to friend and they will think you spent a lot of money on them as you get a premium package with a very nice Brainwaves case and a complete set of tips. Wish all companies packed in a nice case with a complete set of tips.
 
 
 
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Also how is GR07BE DS? 

 
I owned the old GR07s for a long time and I do like the BEs more so than the older GR07.. To tell you the truth I was more impressed with the VSD1 simply because of how close they sound to the GR07 for being not even half the price..The BEs are solid in ears and I wish those were out when I had my GR07s and EX600s. I ended up selling both because the lack of bass end muscle. The BEs seem to fix that issue and you all know Vsonics commitment to monitor type neutral sound.. I really liked how the BEs sounded with my X3 but couldn't hang with my S2 on my NFB-5. The soundstage I noticed especially is lacking in comparison and the GR07s are not lacking in stage..My S2 scales much better on more powerful sources. The BEs seem to be much easier to drive than my older GR07s. Which is a good thing as my old GR07 didn't jive all that well with many of my daps. .
 
So I tried my old CKN70s on my X3 as I figured the warmer sound signature of the X3 would bode well with the CKN70s. They do indeed.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 2:05 AM Post #13,182 of 101,045
Dsnuts I like it, but think you might find the new X1 cable I have too bass-light (the bass is there but not like on the Mediabridge). I'm not going to return the cable, but probably use it as an interconnect for something else in the house. Plus my Zu silver-plated cable should be here on Monday.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 2:45 AM Post #13,183 of 101,045
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gavn8r/geek-a-new-usb-awesomifier-for-headphones

Okay, so it's not technically a discovery since it hasn't been released yet, but I do think it's worthwhile to share considering the early-adopter savings and general interest it has garnered.

Quick overview of the GEEK: it's a USB DAC that uses the TI PCM1795 which is 32-bit and 192khz. I'm not sure if the USB implementation allows the full 32 bits, but guess we'll see. Designed by Gavin Fish from Light Harmonic who are responsible for the expensive Da Vinci DAC. A nice feature is that it has two output jacks so music can be shared. The output is amplified and there are physical volume buttons. There's also something they've called the "3D Awesomifier" which is a rather lame term, but it might be cool. I usually don't dig these artificial space-creating effects, but perhaps it'll be implemented nicely by this lot. Final enclosure will be made out of aluminum, so some nice physical quality. It's also going to be made in the USA, which isn't a big thing for me but I know that means something to a lot of Americans.

I jumped on the deal when I saw a $119 spot open up. I don't know how that happened - if someone backed out or if there was a glitch in the system, but I was pretty pleased... And now I'm pretty horrified that I was so impulsive... maybe I'll have to find out if there's a way to back out if I don't get some work soon; the film industry is so frustrating when it comes to actually doing things on schedule. So... Anyone on Head-Fi need some art or animation work done? :frowning2:

But yeah, considering that this Kickstarter campaign only started about five days ago and has managed to already raise almost five times their goal amount, I get the sense it's going to be pretty successful.
 
Aug 18, 2013 at 4:34 AM Post #13,185 of 101,045
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I owned the old GR07s for a long time and I do like the BEs more so than the older GR07.. To tell you the truth I was more impressed with the VSD1 simply because of how close they sound to the GR07 for being not even half the price..The BEs are solid in ears and I wish those were out when I had my GR07s and EX600s. I ended up selling both because the lack of bass end muscle. The BEs seem to fix that issue and you all know Vsonics commitment to monitor type neutral sound.. I really liked how the BEs sounded with my X3 but couldn't hang with my S2 on my NFB-5. The soundstage I noticed especially is lacking in comparison and the GR07s are not lacking in stage..My S2 scales much better on more powerful sources. The BEs seem to be much easier to drive than my older GR07s. Which is a good thing as my old GR07 didn't jive all that well with many of my daps. .
 
So I tried my old CKN70s on my X3 as I figured the warmer sound signature of the X3 would bode well with the CKN70s. They do indeed.

 
Thanks for the impressions Dsnuts. GR07BE or S2 has better bass and which one has more? What about the treble and the comfort? I think both GR07 MK1 and BE are pretty easy to drive and don't need amplification.
 

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