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If you like AT bass, FAD probably not for you, BA bass. Saw an ad for them about $170, seems like they sold for more a while back. These Are REALLY good, imo. Did I mevti the nice cymbal attack, texture? Ok, ttfn.
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Don't know if people are still interested in vsonic with all the new gear but there have been few announcement. First VSD2/S (~ $32) supposedly coming out March 18th on a special event where whoever buys one can get a Vsonic 16 anniversary edition (the same housing as vsonic gr06 but with new tuning). Also, an upcoming gr07 Extreme Edition, which should have the same packaging a looks like gr07 but with a new color and supposedly sound exactly like the upcoming flagship VSD9 but at a lower price - it seem that the price will be around $400. I didn't quite get whether there will be 2 versions 50 and 200 ohm with the latter costing about 800 bucks or that the VSD9 in comparison will cost $800. Don't quote me on the pricing as the quoted price in euro seems to be 50 and 200 euro respectively, so who knows? Also some weird info about what might be a vsonic ciem tuned to the customer's liking launched the second half of the year. Still no ETA on VSD7 and VSD9's actual release but 

post #28758 of 28765
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OK, quick preliminary reply. I'm in the end stages of renovating, painting the house, stuff gets moved here, back, around, so, I couldn't find the Titan 1 tonight to do the 3 way. But, don't actually think it matters all that much, the Duoza and the Titan1, are both good headphones, with differences in what they emphasize. Pulled out my Heaven V, haven't listened to them in a while (bad case of new toy syndrome). Played some hi rez files from my Pono, Grateful Dead American Beauty (Box of Rain and Friend of the Devil), Hi Rez The Band, from the self Titled album (Jemimah Surrenders), then, for a change of pace, Miles Davis Bitches Brew (Pharaoh's Dance). Know what? It took very little listening to get a feel of the differences between the Duoza and the FAD. The FAD has more detail, while it manages to keep all the detail organized and musical, doesn't throw a lot of disjointed instruments out there for you to put together into music. It's got a clearer, wider soundstage, better handle on the instrument texture, better silence between instruments, It really pulls you in, the Miles is riveting. Now, if I started with the Duoza, it sounds fine, even like it, but put in the FAD afterwards, no comparison. Those layers of gauze reviewers are fond of referring to can really be heard to disappear when the FAD is playing (or, if you like audiophile cliches, how about cleaning a dusty window, or opening it so you see the outside with no barrier)! I can do the same for the Titan1 when I turn it up, but I'm quite sure I'll get the same result. This is not really a put down of the Duoza...it's a bit like asking, "I love my Honda Civic, how does it compare to the Lexus". But, if you can get a Heaven V for about the same money as the Titan or Duoza, it's a no brainer!!!! (the Duoza may have a bit more bass in volume, but FAD has more control, tuneful bass. FAD also seems to be a bit more microphonic).
OK, that's the minute review/comparison.
Minute's up...

 

@doctorjazz

 

Thanks for taking the time to do this comparison. Very much appreciated. Sounds good to me from your description and will most definitely pick up the Heaven V soon as it's on my mind for some time now. 

 

Have just received my Titan 1 few hours back and it's on the burn right now. Based on the brief listen, I'm assuming it will be very different in sound signature to the V. Have read that the DuoZA are the opposite in ss to the Titan 1 so can I assume that the V have a ss in between the 2. Just a guess so correct if I'm wrong. Thanks again.

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Don't know if people are still interested in vsonic with all the new gear but there have been few announcement. First VSD2/S (~ $32) supposedly coming out March 18th on a special event where whoever buys one can get a Vsonic 16 anniversary edition (the same housing as vsonic gr06 but with new tuning). Also, an upcoming gr07 Extreme Edition, which should have the same packaging a looks like gr07 but with a new color and supposedly sound exactly like the upcoming flagship VSD9 but at a lower price - it seem that the price will be around $400. I didn't quite get whether there will be 2 versions 50 and 200 ohm with the latter costing about 800 bucks or that the VSD9 in comparison will cost $800. Don't quote me on the pricing as the quoted price in euro seems to be 50 and 200 euro respectively, so who knows? Also some weird info about what might be a vsonic ciem tuned to the customer's liking launched the second half of the year. Still no ETA on VSD7 and VSD9's actual release but 

where where, want them and where can they be purchased 😊

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Have to find the Titans again to review, but found them to be more high freq oriented, think tips are very important, can ameliate some of those high end nasties if you're sensitive to that kind of thing. Duoza more mid and bass centric. FAD is just a different animal than the Duoza, as I had mentioned. It manages to be both more detailed and open, while still maintaining a coherence and musicality that is really engaging. Often you get more perceived detail with emphasized highs, but the highs are detailed BUT smooth. The sense of space and soundstage are really excellent, and bass is detailed, but, as I mentioned, BA bass, not as strong as the Duoza or AT phones, but didn't feel like there was a deficiency (hate not having enough bass to drive rhythmic music, everything else can be fabulous, but if that is missing, I won't like the headphones). I found them on Amazon for somewhere in the mid $200's, and a use pair, if still available, for $160 (the regular version, not the one with the old looking finish). Some are obsessed with FAD, and I can see why.
Generally, with the confusion/moving stuff that is going on in my house, I'll find them at some point (usually when looking for something else that has disappeared), and I can give more impressions, not from memory, hopefully.
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Don't know if people are still interested in vsonic with all the new gear but there have been few announcement. First VSD2/S (~ $32) supposedly coming out March 18th on a special event where whoever buys one can get a Vsonic 16 anniversary edition (the same housing as vsonic gr06 but with new tuning). Also, an upcoming gr07 Extreme Edition, which should have the same packaging a looks like gr07 but with a new color and supposedly sound exactly like the upcoming flagship VSD9 but at a lower price - it seem that the price will be around $400. I didn't quite get whether there will be 2 versions 50 and 200 ohm with the latter costing about 800 bucks or that the VSD9 in comparison will cost $800. Don't quote me on the pricing as the quoted price in euro seems to be 50 and 200 euro respectively, so who knows? Also some weird info about what might be a vsonic ciem tuned to the customer's liking launched the second half of the year. Still no ETA on VSD7 and VSD9's actual release but 


Hmm spending that much money on a V-Sonic Product is quite risky, given their propensity to not last that long and being plagued by qc issues in the past. Here is to hoping that they learned a thing or two about that. 

 

PS IMO ofc


Edited by RedJohn456 - Yesterday at 8:31 am
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looking at gr07ex

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Hmm spending that much money on a V-Sonic Product is quite risky, given their propensity to not last that long and being plagued by qc issues in the past. Here is to hoping that they learned a thing or two about that. 

 

PS IMO ofc

Well, I've had pretty much all vsonic models and personally haven't had issue with any of them, so can't complain but YMMV. Especially with their entry level models as I don't really expect premium feel and build quality from something that costs 40 bucks. And given their track record in the sound department and the price to performance ratio it would be interesting to see what they've done that they think warrants the premium price. Especially that gr07 extreme edition, which apparently will be filling the spot between the VSD7 and the flagman VSD9. Also, the production will be extremely limited with like 10 units per month for the overseas market

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Well, I've had pretty much all vsonic models and personally haven't had issue with any of them, so can't complain but YMMV. Especially with their entry level models as I don't really expect premium feel and build quality from something that costs 40 bucks. And given their track record in the sound department and the price to performance ratio it would be interesting to see what they've done that they think warrants the premium price. Especially that gr07 extreme edition, which apparently will be filling the spot between the VSD7 and the flagman VSD9. Also, the production will be extremely limited with like 10 units per month for the overseas market


10 units? Damn thats nuts. But yes with my first VSD3 I have had one problem or another. And plenty of reports of GR07 failing on this board and on the headphone subreddit. I have nothing against the company, but I am only stating what I am observing. Willing to give them the benefit of the doubt so lets see.


Edited by RedJohn456 - Yesterday at 9:37 am
post #28765 of 28765
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Originally Posted by doctorjazz View Post

Have to find the Titans again to review, but found them to be more high freq oriented, think tips are very important, can ameliate some of those high end nasties if you're sensitive to that kind of thing. Duoza more mid and bass centric. FAD is just a different animal than the Duoza, as I had mentioned. It manages to be both more detailed and open, while still maintaining a coherence and musicality that is really engaging. Often you get more perceived detail with emphasized highs, but the highs are detailed BUT smooth. The sense of space and soundstage are really excellent, and bass is detailed, but, as I mentioned, BA bass, not as strong as the Duoza or AT phones, but didn't feel like there was a deficiency (hate not having enough bass to drive rhythmic music, everything else can be fabulous, but if that is missing, I won't like the headphones). I found them on Amazon for somewhere in the mid $200's, and a use pair, if still available, for $160 (the regular version, not the one with the old looking finish). Some are obsessed with FAD, and I can see why.
Generally, with the confusion/moving stuff that is going on in my house, I'll find them at some point (usually when looking for something else that has disappeared), and I can give more impressions, not from memory, hopefully.

That cements my thoughts for the FAD. Will get them soon. In the meantime, I look forward to your Titan 1 comparison. Thanks again.
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