[Thade]

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Any verdict on SHE3575 vs 3580? I'm ready to mic up

OK, I picked up the SHE3575... Some combination of the decrease in bass and harsher highs & I prefer the 3580s for sure. I burned them in last night & they SEEM to be a bit more mellow. I'm limited to EQ options with iPhone and iPod but the default bass boost setting evens things out a bit and they sound pretty darn good.
 
I thought the cable packaging was bad on the 3580s with twisty cables which have since straightened out. The packaging on the SHE 3575 is about 10x worse! The skimpy cables above the Y and mic (the cable is thicker on the left to the mic) are so badly pinched out of the package they may break off any time as they are hanging from a thread... very annoying. I initiated a chat session at philips and after exchanging some info I don't think I'll have any difficulty getting them replaced after I fax the ticket number and a copy of the receipt on Monday. 
 
Other thoughts: the tips are softer that the tips on 3580 and work really well. No complaints on the mic & the mic button works for track control on my iPhone4 and iPod touch 2nd gen but not on latest gen shuffle
 
Also, poking around philips site there are some new heavy duty headphones that look interesting. Hopefully, we'll see them in the US by April:
 
http://www.usa.philips.com/c/headphones/sho2205bk_28/prd/en/
 

 

[Dsnuts]

Why do I have a feeling those will sound identical to the SHE3580 in some fashion. Philips is guilty of reshelling the same drivers and slightly tweeking the sound here and there. They throw out so many earphones it is hard to keep up with all the iterations.

 

[Thade]

 
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Why do I have a feeling those will sound identical to the SHE3580 in some fashion. Philips is guilty of reshelling the same drivers and slightly tweeking the sound here and there. They throw out so many earphones it is hard to keep up with all the iterations.

I kinda hope they do have a similar/identical sound. I'd pay for the the 3580 sound with much better cable mic & track control. Apparently, the cable has a kevlar coating so it may actually save my life some day
 
http://www.surf-devil.com/en/books/67-accessories/470-jordy-smith-joins-oneill-headphones-team.html
 
 

 

[sjondenon]

just received my she3570, a damn lot  of sub bass for €13!

 

[danny93]

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I kinda hope they do have a similar/identical sound. I'd pay for the the 3580 sound with much better cable mic & track control. 
 
 

The SHE5105 has the same sound as the 3580 apparently and with better mids, it has a mic too with a much nicer cable (flat) check out Dnuts review on page 70! 
 
Gonna get my Dad these or the ATH-CKS55i cant decide, havent read much on the CKS55´s actually, need to do some searching

 

[Dsnuts]

Now I don't own the CKS55 but I can guess those will have bigger bass over the SHE5105 which have ample bass to start with..The sound staging on the CKS55 will be better if not one of the best you will hear in an earphone. Based on my CKS77 which has the same design. Sound depth is something else on these CKS earphones.
 
I think either one will do fine. 

 

[david8613]

its funny, i live one the east coast and when it was cold i was using the phillips 3580 daily and loving them, but we had a warm spell last week and i couldnt find them, started using my other buds mentioned in this thread. it got cold again and i found them in my heavier coat! man, the phillips just absolutley blow away my other buds that cost twice and three times as much! now i gotta ask the experts what is just like the phillips 3580 but in a full size headphone, meaning very affordable but sound fantastic?

 

[danny93]

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Now I don't own the CKS55 but I can guess those will have bigger bass over the SHE5105 which have ample bass to start with..The sound staging on the CKS55 will be better if not one of the best you will hear in an earphone. Based on my CKS77 which has the same design. Sound depth is something else on these CKS earphones.
 
I think either one will do fine. 

The CKS77´s were double the price of the CKS55´s though when they first came out, so they must possess significant differences for AT to bring them both out at the same time...no?
 
 
 

 

[Dsnuts]

I don't own one but if these sound just like the earphone equivalent. .These got best headphones for $100 by our own Jude at this years CES. If these sound much like the SHE5105 which I do have. These will in fact will not only have a superior sound from the SHE3580 but will give you sound staging only full sized headphones can give. Good design and supposed good sound with phone controls. Not bad.

 

[Dsnuts]

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The CKS77´s were double the price of the CKS55´s though when they first came out, so they must possess significant differences for AT to bring them both out at the same time...no?
 
 
 

Think CKS55 with more refined sound and you get the CKS77. From what I understand both will have balanced sound for being bassy. Now I think the bass end will be very similar on both but it is how refined the highs and the mids are on them that will make the difference. If you guys can afford to spend the extra to get the CKS77. I can't recommend a better bassy earphone. They have completely surprised me as they are actually more capable and have better sound qualities over a Monster Miles Davis Tributes which cost $300 on Amazon..Bigger roomier more defined sound with even better and bigger bass presentation over them. Hows that for value.

 

[david8613]

what model number are those, look very nice, are they available yet?

 

[Dsnuts]

Not out quite yet it seems. They are the SHL5605. .Amazon has them for preorder. Those should be available it says May 1st.

 

[david8613]

anything else i might like to look at thats available now, at a lower price point?

 

[Dsnuts]

Hmm. If you want something cheaper on the go . Try a JVC HAM750. If you can afford it a ATH-WS55.. Look them up. Both are great for the cash.

 

[david8613]

thanks for the advice i will check them out and trust your opinion dsnuts... i actually went out and pick up another pair of philips 3580 because they sound so dam good for buds, im afraid they are gonna stop making them or changed them some way.... best 10.00 i spent in my life!