[Ghostfit]

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This is coming from the same guy that digs his beloved S400s more than the S500s. But which one is more popular with the gents and ladies here at head-fi??? HA! I am gonna have to take everything you say with a GRAIN of salt now ghost.

Double HA!!!
 
But i am planning to get the CKN 70s as well so....... what was your point again??? Right no point as usual.

 
Don't end this fight so early into the year yet, cuz JVC haven't flexed all of their CNT muscles yet.

 
Lol !  ...take it with whatever you fancy bro, salt, pepper, rice, sand ...doesn't matter !

 
I'm still standing by the S400 for music, for me the mids is just that bit more smoother and forward but it's a muted point as the AD900X has taken over just as the WS99 has taken over the duties of my S500. But yes, the S400 was the start of something for me (read below)
 
I've followed this thread from page 1 and going thru from FX1X to FX101 to FX3X, FX40 to FXD80, SHE3580 to MH1C to XB80EX and a whole heap more, the emphasis always being bass, sub bass and more bass. I've enjoyed these phones but somehow wasn't truely satisfied, something was somehow missing, the S400 made me realise what it was.
When I first heard the FXZ100, I knew I'll got to have the both of them (100 and 200). It was the first time hearing what I call the "full spectrum" distinctly, nothing seriously missing or lacking in the sound, those JVCs were the first shots fired in a new level of Audio gears wars.
 
Thanks to bros Dsnut's and Ericp's impression of the CKN50, I was willing to take a chance on the new CKN70, I was expecting a side-grade (they were, out of box) but even with the short hrs of burning I've put in the CKN70, they have pulled ahead of even the FXZ200 (For me)
If you judge the 2 of them based on bass level alone, the FXZ200 is ahead, but the CKN70 is certainly not lacking in bass and their overall sound will grab you by the neck, swing you round a few times and leave you woozy from all that detail, layering, separation, smoothness and 3Dness, you just have to burn them 150hrs+
 
My point ?    ...very simple really, new gears will always be developed and I don't doubt the CKN70 will be superceed in the future but I'm willing to bet the CKN70 will go down in history as one of the Classic IEMs which others will be judged upon.

 

[Ghostfit]

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And what is that supposed to mean?? Lol

 

   ...When I first got them, I thought they would be comparable to the FXD80, being in the same Micro HD drivers category, ....boy was I wrong !!!
 
I love the FXD80 for it's separation ...and the FXZ100, FXZ200 even more but the CKN70 has gone to a level above (with sufficient burning).
 
If the FXD80 are your 12 guage shotgun, the FXZ100 would be your M16/AK47 assault rifle, the FXZ200, your browning 50cal machine gun and the CKN70, the avenger gun in the A10

Musical notes being the ammunition.
 
With the FXD80, some of the sound tracks in my collection sounded different and special, with the FXZs, more of the sound tracks became special but with the CKN70, ALL of the sound tracks sounded totally special   ....tracks I routinely skipped with other phones, I now listen and are totally enjoyable.
 
I may be biased but if there's only one earphone you're going to buy this year, the CKN70 is IT !!!   ditto if it's budget or High$$$ branded !!! 

 

[Lifted Andreas]

Let's also not forget that at the moment you can get them as cheap as £45 on Amazon.co.jp.
 
That's an immense difference when compared to JVC!!!! 

 
I'll have to snap up the Blue ones for sure, once I sold off some of my other stuff of course lol

 

[rickdohc]

SWeeeeettt looordd jezuuuuzzzzz
 
I am 50 pages  behind on this thread,  more than 1k posts behind, iam not even sure i can catchup
 
Seems like my S500+FP combo is so 2012!
 

 
 
so, i am like reading about some Somics.. but sweet lord jesus,  50 pages behind!  its Crazy!!!
Good thing is that i have saved a TON of money because of not reading this thread for 2 months

 

[Fizban]

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   ...When I first got them, I thought they would be comparable to the FXD80, being in the same Micro HD drivers category, ....boy was I wrong !!!
 
I love the FXD80 for it's separation ...and the FXZ100, FXZ200 even more but the CKN70 has gone to a level above (with sufficient burning).
 
If the FXD80 are your 12 guage shotgun, the FXZ100 would be your M16/AK47 assault rifle, the FXZ200, your browning 50cal machine gun and the CKN70, the avenger gun in the A10

Musical notes being the ammunition.
 
With the FXD80, some of the sound tracks in my collection sounded different and special, with the FXZs, more of the sound tracks became special but with the CKN70, ALL of the sound tracks sounded totally special   ....tracks I routinely skipped with other phones, I now listen and are totally enjoyable.
 
I may be biased but if there's only one earphone you're going to buy this year, the CKN70 is IT !!!   ditto if it's budget or High$$$ branded !!! 

goodness!

It's like a MUST-HAVE!

Ok, so is it thin-sounding like the fxd80?
Or more meaty like say......fxz100 or fxt90?

 

[ericp10]

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^ TroLoLoLoLoLoLO WoW

 
The pole is the CKN 70s............................. while ericp was on a brisk walk blissfully enjoying his FXZ100s.

 
Just messing with ya.

 
 
lol... It's all good. I still enjoy the FXZ100 but can't counter Dsnuts points because I haven't listened to it in a minute. Right now the V6, CKS1000, BA200 and W4 (with the company's new Star tips or Phonak tips) occupy my listening time. But I will say that I know the CKN70 is probably a great sounding earphone because the CKN50 is a VERY good sounding earphone, and it would get a lot more of my listening time if it wasn't for that darn cable (along with be a j-cord) that irritates me so.

I also suspect most of my earphones will take a back seat once my AS-2 comes. I use the UE900 tips on the FXZ100 and it great sounding to me, but AT has stepped up it's game tremendously to get a JVC-head like me to appreciate it's sound. There's layering in sound of the CKS1000 that's just incredible. 

 

[Mackem]

So the bass on the CKN70s is sufficient then? I don't mind if they're a bit less bassy than my FX101s as long as the overall sound is better, which I'm sure it will be.

 

[Gee Simpson]

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You have solved my dilemma with that answer above, thanks

I'll be going with the FXZ200's then as I want good isolation and portability too. I also wanted that nice bass which I know the 200's will provide. I think I prefer IEM's to headphones due to the first 2 reasons I mentioned.

Edit - I see you have edited your post. Even though I have the s500's and like them, I think I have realised that I prefer IEM's to headphones as when I was on the bus I was worried people could hear my music, the isolation was ok but no way near my FX 101's and I guess that is what I like about IEM's plus the portability factor too of course.

Then again, I guess there is also the Sony XB90EX to consider. As I'm not an expert, I don't know if my ears are trained enough to hear the differences between a FXZ200 and the XB90's or is there a big difference in quality there? I don't buy audio equipment regularly so want to make sure I make the right choice. Oh, and how do the CKS1000's compare to the FXZ200's? They are around similar price.

 

[Mackem]

Are their any foam tips that fit the CKN70s does anyone know? What size tips am I looking for?

 

[ericp10]

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Are their any foam tips that fit the CKN70s does anyone know? What size tips am I looking for?

You want a wide nozzle tip. I think silicon tips work best (like the Senn double-flange). The MH1C tips should work nicely on the CKN70 too.

 

[Mackem]

I'm having trouble finding them or similar from a UK site.

 

[Dsnuts]

So I checked the stock tips that came with the CKN70. And just as I suspected. The stock tips are not recommended for the best sound on the CKN70. It narrows the sound to your ears and actually restricts some dynamics that channel to your ears. I put a Sennheiser double flange tip on one side and had the stock tip on the other. It was clearly evident. The double flange tip gives much more fullness to the sound because it has a much wider bore.
 
It is funny to me that AT would go all out on the actual tuning of these earphones yet completely overlook the cord and just use their stock tips. Sony is guilty of doing this as well.  As far as I am concerned the stock tips are no good on these earphones. I will try it again once I get a full burn in but I highly doubt the stock tips will give out the best sound.

 

[Dsnuts]

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So the bass on the CKN70s is sufficient then? I don't mind if they're a bit less bassy than my FX101s as long as the overall sound is better, which I'm sure it will be.

Going from the FX101 to these. These will have less bass emphasis.. I want to say if you want something with good bass and better dynamics you might find the MH1C to your liking. As those are what I feel are somewhere in the middle of a bass iem like a FX101 to a much higher end sound of the CKN70. But then again going straight to a CKN70 is gonna be a big jump so why not. Go for it.

 

[Lifted Andreas]

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I'm having trouble finding them or similar from a UK site.

 
I'm guessing these should fit:
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-6-Replacement-SENNHEISER-DOUBLE-FLANGE-Earbud-Tips-LARGE-In-Ear-Headphone-/110976317583?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item19d6b4388f

 

[Dsnuts]

Yup those are exactly what I am using.