[mochill]

Fx850 is better the te-05 if you can get them

 

[mochill]

Also better then the dunu and doppios

 

[BenF]

Also better then the dunu and doppios

But Pistons beat them all?

 

[peter123]

Lol

 

[mochill]

Not really per se ...close but losing resolution and control like I stated in the piston thread ...fx850 is my perfect dream iem

 

[kahaluu]

Initially I thought it was the BA200, but the Doppio actually has more bass between the two, especially sub bass.

Thanks ericp10. The Doppios are very interesting indeed.

 

[Grayson73]

Just got the M200.  Out of the box and with stock medium tips, the bass is dominating the spectrum and blending into lower mids.  I also find them to have less detail than Fidelio S2 and Zero Audio Tenore.  They are, however, very smooth; no sibilance and all.  They require a lot of power to drive; laptop volume much higher than when listening to Tenore or S2.
 
I had a hard time getting seal with ear hooks, so I just put the earhooks straight up; don't even use them.
 
Do these need burn-in and/or tip change so that bass tightens up and there is more detail in mids and highs?

 

[Grayson73]

  This is an Oldie but a REAL goodie. Re-introducing the TEAC ZE1000
 
This thing looks harmless due to it's low profile built/ aesthetics but this lil' sucka packs a punch cuz under that benign shell lurks a duel armature beast that is waiting to be unleashed......
 
^ With conventional rubber tips these ZE1000s are VERY dry and CRAZY BASSY, which makes them sound somewhat like cheapo conventional bass iems. I have used the wide bore UE tips as well the the radioshack auvio tips and both gave me some intense brain rattling deep bass. So i was like the Fff, these are some duel BA iems!!!??? Why the hell do they sound like a damn dynamic in sound cuz the presentation is so natural and holistic that even the bass is BIG/DEEP/BOLD AND FULL  with crazy authority just like a dynamic would sound. 

  I was D'YAM these don't sound like any of the BAs that i have heard before and certainly doesn't appear to be some generic TWFK config that's fo' sho. haha So i was thinking maybe i should try out the stock tips instead even though peps warned me that they were junk and is funky as hell lookin'......
 
Lo and behold with the stock onion layered looking tips it gave these ZE1000s MUCH more air, hence micro details are much more overt/ forward along with great lush sounding mids. Now we're finally cooking some good stuff cuz all the amazing elements of BA drivers (amazing clarity, HD/3Dness, precision, micro detailing, staging, etc) are now much more apparent.  Not only that but the dynamic traits (natural timbre, great bold/deep bass, wholeness) that i have noted before with the conventional rubber deep bore tips are still present as well. It is just now MUCH more well integrated into the rest of the presentation.  The once boosted bass quantity with the conventional deep bore rubber tips which masked all those micro details and recess the lushness/ forwardness of the mids is now gone. The stock tips not only balanced the quantity but improved on the overall quality of the bass as well.  Therefore, these are kicking some SERIOUS dust with great staging, HD/3Dness, bass quality as well as quantity with crazy nice depth along with lots of the micro details/ lushness/ silkiness and great extension in the treble.
 
There is no longer any dryness in the sound cuz those onion layered stock tips adds much mo' air/ layering into the mix, hence these are sounding MIGHTY DAMN refined. MY GAWD!!!

 
SUCH a natural sounding bass/ presentation for a duel BA that for me can more than hang with the likes of Sony XBA-3s and even the KEF M200s on all fronts. BUT i kinda detect some funky resonance issues with certain tracks i have never heard from some particular songs/ recordings before. Kinda' strange but yeah....... not really a deal killer but still.

 
 
These are TRULY a GIANT KILLER for the price they are selling now, so GO GO GO while they are still around!!!
 
edit: oh forgot to give Hutnicks and the Kicked Da' Canned Crew a BIG THANK YOU for giving me a heads up on this lil' gem. Would have never gotten these ZE1Ks if it weren't for them teasin'/ taunting me about them. haha
 
So this is a BIG Fufufufufufu to you lovely Canned Land folks cuz damn it ya'll were right on the money regarding this one................. for once.

 
 
Was I the only one who found ZE-1000 to be bass light?  Stock onion tips didn't seal.  For tips that did seal, there was bass impact, but bass volume was low and there was no weight to it.
 
I'm clearing out inventory on many of the hyped headphones on this thread.  PM me if interested.  Astrotec AX30, Monster Gratitude, Teac ZE-1000, JVC HA-S500

 

[vlenbo]

So many decisions to make:

TE-05: Great
DUNU-1000: Great
FX HA-850: Great
H3: Great
Doppios: Great

....time to do a ****load of research.

Let me make your decision even harder!


Ath-im02. >:-D

 

[MrEleventy]

Just got the M200.  Out of the box and with stock medium tips, the bass is dominating the spectrum and blending into lower mids.  I also find them to have less detail than Fidelio S2 and Zero Audio Tenore.  They are, however, very smooth; no sibilance and all.  They require a lot of power to drive; laptop volume much higher than when listening to Tenore or S2.

I had a hard time getting seal with ear hooks, so I just put the earhooks straight up; don't even use them.

Do these need burn-in and/or tip change so that bass tightens up and there is more detail in mids and highs?

I had similar impressions as you did. I never got them to fit just right so I sold them, more trouble than it was worth for a sound sig that wasn't my thing.

 

[nihontoman]

At kakaku, theyre 150ish.

Also here,sorry for the wait

thanks for that. they seem to be really compact. shouldn't have any issues with fit and comfort. just need them to go down in price

 

[mochill]

Or get zee fx850

 

[vlenbo]

 
thanks for that. they seem to be really compact. shouldn't have any issues with fit and comfort. just need them to go down in price

http://kakaku.com/item/K0000585203/
 
about $150 in japan. BenF, doctorjazz, or someone else who used this service may help you out on the process of ordering it when it becomes cheaper.
 
Right now it is $20 more than the doppios, but you do get a removable cable, in case people worry about destroying their iems by accident. The Fostex are also the same price, so YMMV! Though I've read that the fostex isolation is okay, not really good. The im-02s isolation is decent, it is passable imo.

 

[waynes world]

  Just got the M200.  Out of the box and with stock medium tips, the bass is dominating the spectrum and blending into lower mids.  I also find them to have less detail than Fidelio S2 and Zero Audio Tenore.  They are, however, very smooth; no sibilance and all.  They require a lot of power to drive; laptop volume much higher than when listening to Tenore or S2.
 
I had a hard time getting seal with ear hooks, so I just put the earhooks straight up; don't even use them.
 
Do these need burn-in and/or tip change so that bass tightens up and there is more detail in mids and highs?

 
UE900 or comply tx500/tsx500 tips do the trick for me. I can't comment on burn-in as mine were already when I got them.

 

[ericp10]

  http://kakaku.com/item/K0000585203/
 
about $150 in japan. BenF, doctorjazz, or someone else who used this service may help you out on the process of ordering it when it becomes cheaper.
 
Right now it is $20 more than the doppios, but you do get a removable cable, in case people worry about destroying their iems by accident. The Fostex are also the same price, so YMMV! Though I've read that the fostex isolation is okay, not really good. The im-02s isolation is decent, it is passable imo.

 
 
True, but it's much better with these new JVC tips that came with the FX850. And these tips are suppose to go on sale as separate items next month. Some of the best silicon tips I've heard. I put them up their with the UE900s.