[Gorillaz]

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No no no Cravenz. Do you not remember this thread is for praising only. Come on man, keep yourself informed will you.

 
 
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Personally, I don't see any argument, and if anything, it places posters/readers in general in a more informed position (and this includes Heir products), but to each their own. 

 
do you know how to read or how to interpret things? did I say let's go back to say good things about Heir Audio products?  we were off topic all of the sudden because of a comment I made so I did not want this thread to take another direction. . or do you want to see a hundreds of posts of what neutral, natural or balanced means to everyone of us in this thread, use a little bit of common sense is not that hard.
 
also did you both read my reply to DigitalFreak in which I said that he has a very good point of view on the subject consequently making me to think if I should  to get the Tzar 350 or not since I want the best neutral iem in the market?

 

[serious7]

Does anyone have an opinion on the rendition 1 vs Leckerton 6S MKII apart from battery life and size? The leckerton is substantially cheaper and has a built in dac and has been in development for about 3 generations whereas I heard that the rendition 1 was built by a third party company. What value does the rendition 1 provide knowing that its price is substantially higher? 

 

[serious7]

My friend wants to trade his tzar 90 for a 4ai from another member. Is warranty transferrable in this situation?

 

[uchihaitachi]

Does anyone have an opinion on the rendition 1 vs Leckerton 6S MKII apart from battery life and size? The leckerton is substantially cheaper and has a built in dac and has been in development for about 3 generations whereas I heard that the rendition 1 was built by a third party company. What value does the rendition 1 provide knowing that its price is substantially higher? 

That would be a fascinating battle.

 

[FullCircle]

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Does anyone have an opinion on the rendition 1 vs Leckerton 6S MKII apart from battery life and size? The leckerton is substantially cheaper and has a built in dac and has been in development for about 3 generations whereas I heard that the rendition 1 was built by a third party company. What value does the rendition 1 provide knowing that its price is substantially higher? 

 
 
       Third party?   Not sure if I'd call it that, but it certainly wasn't built by me.   The guy that did most of the work has a desk about 10 feet from the lab....   it isn't like the R1 was outsourced to Korea.

 

[FullCircle]

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My friend wants to trade his tzar 90 for a 4ai from another member. Is warranty transferrable in this situation?

 
     The warranty, as well as other companies such as Shure and Westone etc is not transferrable.

 

[serious7]

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     The warranty, as well as other companies such as Shure and Westone etc is not transferrable.

well that's a bummer. good thing I asked. Thanks. 

 

[Ultimate Mango]

Does anyone have an opinion on the rendition 1 vs Leckerton 6S MKII apart from battery life and size? The leckerton is substantially cheaper and has a built in dac and has been in development for about 3 generations whereas I heard that the rendition 1 was built by a third party company. What value does the rendition 1 provide knowing that its price is substantially higher? 

Impossibly long battery life for one. I charged it just because I have been using it for six weeks without ever plugging it in and thought it would be a good idea.
I have several other amps and this is very open and transparent. Totally silent as well, if that makes sense.

It is larger than the JDS Labs portables but I don't mind the size. I think there aren't many comparisons or measurements published on the R1 but I really enjoy mine.

 

[serious7]

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Impossibly long battery life for one. I charged it just because I have been using it for six weeks without ever plugging it in and thought it would be a good idea.
I have several other amps and this is very open and transparent. Totally silent as well, if that makes sense.

It is larger than the JDS Labs portables but I don't mind the size. I think there aren't many comparisons or measurements published on the R1 but I really enjoy mine.

That should sort of be expected considering the size of the device. It is definitely not very portable. Other than size and battery life, is there anything else? I mean, the C&C BH has killer battery life as well and it is also significantly smaller than the rendition from what I've heard.

 

[uchihaitachi]

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That should sort of be expected considering the size of the device. It is definitely not very portable. Other than size and battery life, is there anything else? I mean, the C&C BH has killer battery life as well and it is also significantly smaller than the rendition from what I've heard.

What is your take on C&C BH vs the Leckerton 6s mk2? Somebody really needs to get the rendition to be measured.... But from a subjective perspective, the rendition sounds great and is silent even with my epic sensitive Shures.

 

[serious7]

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What is your take on C&C BH vs the Leckerton 6s mk2? Somebody really needs to get the rendition to be measured.... But from a subjective perspective, the rendition sounds great and is silent even with my epic sensitive Shures.

I don't own any portable amplifier. I've just repeated what I've "heard" from others. IMO, however, if I were to buy only an amp (with no dac), I'd buy the C&C over rendition. It's small and it has great battery life AND it's cheap/highly acclaimed. Outside of Heir Audio, nobody's really heard of rendition.
 
For that price, I'd rather get the Leckerton. It comes with a dac. You can roll your own op amps (if you believe in that it changes sound), still small (I'll consider it at the cost of loss of battery life), and still highly a highly acclaimed dac/amp combo. I don't care if an amp can last 2 weeks. My listening session is not longer than 1 hour anyways. With some discipline, one can get away with a lower battery life. 
 
There isn't much details of the rendition. I'd like it to be measured as well. Has anyone opened it up to take a look at what's inside?

 

[lee730]

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I don't own any portable amplifier. I've just repeated what I've "heard" from others. IMO, however, if I were to buy only an amp (with no dac), I'd buy the C&C over rendition. It's small and it has great battery life AND it's cheap/highly acclaimed. Outside of Heir Audio, nobody's really heard of rendition.
 
For that price, I'd rather get the Leckerton. It comes with a dac. You can roll your own op amps (if you believe in that it changes sound), still small (I'll consider it at the cost of loss of battery life), and still highly a highly acclaimed dac/amp combo. I don't care if an amp can last 2 weeks. My listening session is not longer than 1 hour anyways. With some discipline, one can get away with a lower battery life. 

Serious7 if you want an excellent amp with a DAC then go for the UHA6 MKII. I don't think it will disappoint and it hits high for its price point. Or go for the Tralucent T1 amp. Both are extremely good amps. In the end I kept the T1 since I thought it paired better with my DX100 at the time over the UHA6 MKII. I did prefer the UHA6 for desktop use but my Triad L3 threw it off the Pali . There are multiple reviews/impressions on both of those units so search them out and enjoy. I've had excellent customer service from both Nick and Gavin. Good luck.

 

[uchihaitachi]

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I don't own any portable amplifier. I've just repeated what I've "heard" from others. IMO, however, if I were to buy only an amp (with no dac), I'd buy the C&C over rendition. It's small and it has great battery life AND it's cheap/highly acclaimed. Outside of Heir Audio, nobody's really heard of rendition.
 
For that price, I'd rather get the Leckerton. It comes with a dac. You can roll your own op amps (if you believe in that it changes sound), still small (I'll consider it at the cost of loss of battery life), and still highly a highly acclaimed dac/amp combo. I don't care if an amp can last 2 weeks. My listening session is not longer than 1 hour anyways. With some discipline, one can get away with a lower battery life. 
 
There isn't much details of the rendition. I'd like it to be measured as well. Has anyone opened it up to take a look at what's inside?

I would happily partake in the measurements myself but then I have exams... I don't even know what the hell I am doing on head-fi at the moment. 

 

[AmberOzL]

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I would happily partake in the measurements myself but then I have exams... I don't even know what the hell I am doing on head-fi at the moment. 

I feel for you mate 

 

[FullCircle]

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That should sort of be expected considering the size of the device. It is definitely not very portable. Other than size and battery life, is there anything else? I mean, the C&C BH has killer battery life as well and it is also significantly smaller than the rendition from what I've heard.

 
 
      The R1 is far more portable than a lot of the new cell phones being released today.
 
Is the R1 bigger than a box of matches? Yes it is, but my dainty hands can still muster the strength to carry it, and somehow if I only have the J3, I feel as though I'm not serious about my music.
 
Different strokes for different folks......  
 
Fortunatley my lifestyle allows me to carry it around with ease, plus the battery life is similar to my J3, so I just charge them both at the same time.
 
Either way, the Leckerton or the R1, has had Texan hands on them at one point in time.....   so you can't go wrong with either amp. 
 
 
 
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