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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

Well I have the brand-spanking new Heir Rendition 1 amp sitting pretty on my desk in all its carbon-clad beauty...

 

 

Where are the nice pictures of it, so we can believe you? tongue.gif

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I'm off to pick up my 4A. Everyone wis meuck
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I'm off to pick up my 4A. Everyone wis me luck
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

I'm off to pick up my 4A. Everyone wis meuck

I'm pretty sure "wis meuck" is Old English for "mine at last! Bwah hah haaa!"
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

I'm off to pick up my 4A. Everyone wis me luck


good luck. please report us back on how it sounds after you get them redface.gif

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Originally Posted by serious7 View Post

I can't seem to hear a lot of bass at all from 4A. I know 4A is supposed to not have much bass at all but really.. I can't hear any. Could this be a bad fit? Anyone want to send me some music that I can listen to so that I can test the bass on 4A? I can reference my hd 650s which has plenty of bass.

I usually use something like Nujabes to test bass, but any track that has bass you should hear it. What's your chain?
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Originally Posted by ardgedee View Post

I'm pretty sure "wis meuck" is Old English for "mine at last! Bwah hah haaa!"
It is actually celto Irish with a slight mistake. As it is an imperative it should be we-is mehuck with a glotal m.
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Originally Posted by DigitalFreak View Post

I'm off to pick up my 4A. Everyone wis meuck

Best of luck! Let us know how they are. Give them several hours of listening to "bloom"

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Originally Posted by serious7 View Post

I can't seem to hear a lot of bass at all from 4A. I know 4A is supposed to not have much bass at all but really.. I can't hear any. Could this be a bad fit? Anyone want to send me some music that I can listen to so that I can test the bass on 4A? I can reference my hd 650s which has plenty of bass.

The 4.A should have a balanced amount of bass. They are by no means bass monsters. But if you have a track recorded with heavy bass, it will certainly be there, and sort of the same volume in relation to the mids and highs. Now if you listen to something like acoustic guitars and banjos, well it's gonna have nothing. It won't make bass appear. But I guess that's obvious. 

 

What happens when you push them in a bit with your fingers? do you get a drastic increase in the bass and fullness? And more blockage of outside noise? If that is the case, maybe you have a bad fit. Not just a little change, a big change....

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Originally Posted by lightningfarron View Post


good meuck. please report us back on how it sounds after you get them redface.gif

Fixed. :)

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Originally Posted by thegrobe View Post

Best of luck! Let us know how they are. Give them several hours of listening to "bloom"

The 4.A should have a balanced amount of bass. They are by no means bass monsters. But if you have a track recorded with heavy bass, it will certainly be there, and sort of the same volume in relation to the mids and highs. Now if you listen to something like acoustic guitars and banjos, well it's gonna have nothing. It won't make bass appear. But I guess that's obvious. 

 

What happens when you push them in a bit with your fingers? do you get a drastic increase in the bass and fullness? And more blockage of outside noise? If that is the case, maybe you have a bad fit. Not just a little change, a big change....

Hi there,

When i push them in a bit with my fingers, what I notice is not an increase in bass, but more blockage of outside noise. I think I may be comparing the bass to my hd 650s which are supposed to be pretty bassy.

 

Also thanks for the PM. I'll be downloading the test tracks tonight when I get on my main machine. :)

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Originally Posted by serious7 View Post

Hi there,

When i push them in a bit with my fingers, what I notice is not an increase in bass, but more blockage of outside noise. I think I may be comparing the bass to my hd 650s which are supposed to be pretty bassy.

 

Also thanks for the PM. I'll be downloading the test tracks tonight when I get on my main machine. :)

No problem...

 

I just wanted to compare for you..I also read your post over on the 4.Ai thread

 

I am certain my fit is correct..and..

 

-If I push the CIEM in, there is a bit more "blockage of noise" as you describe, but no increase in bass response.

 

-if I rub my fingers together I can NOT hear it but I CAN hear fingers snapping (with no music playing)

 

-I can hear a "crackling" as you described while moving opening and closing my jaw fully but that is I believe my beat up jaw joints crackling....also with extreme jaw movement I get a bit of "crackling" around the CIEM which I think is the CIEM just shifting a bit and "almost" breaking seal. I only get this in my left ear because my jaw is looser or something and there is a lot more movement in my left canal. But for mostly all purposes this is not an issue. 

 

Try those "bass heavy" and "bass light" tracks I sent you to test, I have a feeling that you have a seal, from what it sounds. You may be used to the cans and massive bass. The 4.A is much much more neutral in that regard.

 

Now the 8.A on the other hand....basshead.gif

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Originally Posted by thegrobe View Post

No problem...

 

I just wanted to compare for you..I also read your post over on the 4.Ai thread

 

I am certain my fit is correct..and..

 

-If I push the CIEM in, there is a bit more "blockage of noise" as you describe, but no increase in bass response.

 

-if I rub my fingers together I can NOT hear it but I CAN hear fingers snapping (with no music playing)

 

-I can hear a "crackling" as you described while moving opening and closing my jaw fully but that is I believe my beat up jaw joints crackling....also with extreme jaw movement I get a bit of "crackling" around the CIEM which I think is the CIEM just shifting a bit and "almost" breaking seal. I only get this in my left ear because my jaw is looser or something and there is a lot more movement in my left canal. But for mostly all purposes this is not an issue. 

 

Try those "bass heavy" and "bass light" tracks I sent you to test, I have a feeling that you have a seal, from what it sounds. You may be used to the cans and massive bass. The 4.A is much much more neutral in that regard.

 

Now the 8.A on the other hand....basshead.gif


I don't like bass a lot. TO be honest, I can hear so much detail in 4A's its amazing compared to my HD650s. The bass in HD 650 is over powering and tiring to my ears. I can listen to 4A for hours and it wont give me much fatigue at all. I can probably attribute this to the bass. However, I do wish there was more bass presence at least. I don't want that THUMPING type of bass. Just want to bring it up a bit more and then it'd be perfect.

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I'm not sure but I think I may have a misfit also. When I insert my pair at first the sound seems ok but after say 5 to 10 minutes the bass seems to get a little anemic. If I push gently on my plates though the bass gets slightly fuller and the sound signature in general seems a tad warmer. If I'm eating with them on I lose seal within a couple of minutes and if walking with them they seem to lose seal within 5 to 10 minutes. I've also noticed my pair don't seem to be isolating very well compared to my comply tipped universals. If someone is laughing and the music passage is soft I can easily hear them and if I'm walking down the street I sometimes have to turn the volume slightly up to shut out traffic noise

I'm going to play around with them a little more before passing final judgement. I think I'm inserting them correctly.
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Originally Posted by serious7 View Post


I don't like bass a lot. TO be honest, I can hear so much detail in 4A's its amazing compared to my HD650s. The bass in HD 650 is over powering and tiring to my ears. I can listen to 4A for hours and it wont give me much fatigue at all. I can probably attribute this to the bass. However, I do wish there was more bass presence at least. I don't want that THUMPING type of bass. Just want to bring it up a bit more and then it'd be perfect.

 

That would probably be the 6.A?  I thought the HD650 had decent bass but they were a bit too warm and lush for me (if that's possible).  I prefer the LCD2-2 to them, which has more bass presence, but because they are faster and more detailed it was a welcomed upgrade.  Hoping to have my full complement of CIEMs back soon to do some real comparisons.

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Originally Posted by thegrobe View Post

No problem...

 

I just wanted to compare for you..I also read your post over on the 4.Ai thread

 

I am certain my fit is correct..and..

 

-If I push the CIEM in, there is a bit more "blockage of noise" as you describe, but no increase in bass response.

 

-if I rub my fingers together I can NOT hear it but I CAN hear fingers snapping (with no music playing)

 

-I can hear a "crackling" as you described while moving opening and closing my jaw fully but that is I believe my beat up jaw joints crackling....also with extreme jaw movement I get a bit of "crackling" around the CIEM which I think is the CIEM just shifting a bit and "almost" breaking seal. I only get this in my left ear because my jaw is looser or something and there is a lot more movement in my left canal. But for mostly all purposes this is not an issue. 

 

Try those "bass heavy" and "bass light" tracks I sent you to test, I have a feeling that you have a seal, from what it sounds. You may be used to the cans and massive bass. The 4.A is much much more neutral in that regard.

 

Now the 8.A on the other hand....basshead.gif


Just an update. I made a mistake in a couple of my initial observations.

 

-if I rub my fingers together, I CAN hear a LITTLE bit of it when not playing any music. Best way to describe it is like a small ant walking past my ear. Very small. Yet it's there. 5 percent of it.

-If I play music (I always listen to music on low volumes), I cannot hear my fingers rubbing togteher.

-If I push my ciems into my ear  with no music playing and then rub my fingers, the sound of the fingers rubbing is reduced to like 2 percent.

 

Everything else remains the same thus far. It is only day 2 since I've got my 4A's. Will continue to observe further.

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