Sennheiser HD570: do they really sound like $50's?
Feb 2, 2004 at 6:50 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 18
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I need your opinion...

I'm going to buy a Sennheiser HD570, but having read a lot of posts here about HD570's, I noticed that many people try to compare these cans to 590/580/600, saying that HD570's are really bad.
So this view point is undisputable: HD570's are obviously less good than the higher models! But the prices of these cans are also different... So, I think, this comparison is incorrect at all.

But someone mentioned that sound of HD570's (~$100) is the same as $50 cans have... That's the real concern for me.

So could someone answer: is the sound of HD570's really resemble a sound of $50 cans, or it isn't right?

Thanks in advance for help!
 
Feb 2, 2004 at 7:16 AM Post #3 of 18
I think they sound pretty decent, AMPED. They are the most inefficient cans I've tried, meaning they take the highest volume setting, about 20% higher than the HD-600. When well amped, they sound pretty good, better than the HD497 (and infinitely more comfortable). They had a pretty bloated, slightly muddy bass, but it was pretty fun. The same recessed mids as the HD590, but not as clear, just a bit more veiled. The highs were pretty decent, but a bit sharp.

Poory amped, they sound horrible, huge flabby uncontrolled bass, very lacking mids, and the sharpest, meanest, most annoying treble I've ever heard.
 
Feb 2, 2004 at 7:46 AM Post #5 of 18
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Originally posted by SanS
But someone mentioned that sound of HD570's (~$100) is the same as $50 cans have... That's the real concern for me.


I suspect that I'm the "someone" that you're talking about (from my post in this thread). I stand by my statement -- I wouldn't pay $100+ for them, but I might pay $50. That's because I agree with Iron_Dreamer's assessment of the HD 570 (although, I thought they sounded mediocre whether amped or unamped).

So, for $130 US (Audio Advisor), I think that the HD 570 is overpriced. You should check out some other headphones in that price range. For example: Grado SR 125s or AKG K501 or Beyerdynamic DT 250-80. There are other suggestions in the thread that I linked to, also.

D.
 
Feb 2, 2004 at 7:55 AM Post #6 of 18
I would far prefer a SR60, for example, to an HD570 unamped. Even amped, I think I'd still prefer the SR60...a bit of a close call there. For <$100, I personally think that a HD280 or SR60/80 is a better choice.
 
Feb 2, 2004 at 8:14 AM Post #7 of 18
That's right, DEMOLITION, what I meant - is your statement
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Thank you for your advice!
I understand that the sound of 570's is not the same as $150-$200 cans provide, but at least it isn't worse as $100's...
So you get a sound - you paid for...

Another brands are not quite suitable for me: the nearest rival - AGK240 is of 600Ohm... that's a sort of problem, and Buerdynanics
are not suplied in Russia as wide as Sennheisers are...
 
Feb 2, 2004 at 9:36 AM Post #8 of 18
Well, they're sure better than the comprably priced Triports!
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But for the money there are many headphones that sound better including the SR-60's, SR-80's, HD 280 Pros, etc...
 
Feb 2, 2004 at 10:22 AM Post #9 of 18
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but at least it isn't worse as $100's...


It is in fact worse than many <$100 phones, like the ones jasper mentioned.
 
Feb 2, 2004 at 5:17 PM Post #11 of 18
Sans,

Quote:

Originally posted by Demolition
I think that the HD 570 is overpriced. You should check out some other headphones in that price range. For example: Grado SR 125s or AKG K501 or Beyerdynamic DT 250-80. There are other suggestions in the thread that I linked to, also.


The AKG K501 is astronomically better than the HD 570! Trust me. I did also mention somewhere that the Philips HP 910 is a bargain for fifty bucks on e-bay, and that would be a better deal than paying a hundred bucks for the HD 570s.


Cheers,
Alex
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Feb 2, 2004 at 5:39 PM Post #13 of 18
I think there's some formidable competition in the price range (including the Grado SR-60s -> SR-125s) that Senn can't touch, but the big thing: You can't use these phones without an amp! Trust me - I owned them for a while, without an amp. They sounded lifeless, with a small soundstage and really, really bloated and vague bass. An amp cleans them up considerably, not to the level of the Grado SR-80s or the Senn HD-580s, but it's atleast okay. I'm not the first one to recommend that fellow head-fiers buy amps, but yeah.. you'll need one.
 
Feb 2, 2004 at 7:02 PM Post #15 of 18
I have just noticed that even my Beyerdynamic DT-931 feels more efficient than HD570. I don't have to crank up the volume so much with the DT-931 to hear the same amount of details. I don't get details form the HD570 unless it is driven at deafening levels.
 
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