ipod classic 7th gen specifics - Page 5

Personally the 7g is my favorite with the 5.5g being a close 2nd. The 5.5 is smoother sounding, so I can see why some may prefer it. But the 7g is more dynamic, transparent, and detailed. But the 5.5g beats the 6g by quiet a margin imo.

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Originally Posted by moodyrn 

Personally the 7g is my favorite with the 5.5g being a close 2nd. The 5.5 is smoother sounding, so I can see why some may prefer it. But the 7g is more dynamic, transparent, and detailed. But the 5.5g beats the 6g by quiet a margin imo.

I concur.

I'd love to be able to conduct a DBT with every model of iPod behind a curtain and a set of M50 or similar in front - put any 10 Head-Fiers through it and publish the results. There is some serious psychology at play as soon as you tell someone that product XYZ has a Wolfson chip in it - any Wolfson chip ....

I can't speak for everyone, but It wouldn't be any psycology at play with me. I'm not a big fan of the 5.5g because of the wolfson chip, because it's not a high end wolfson chip and imo not the best sounding ipod anyway(but it is the second best to my ears though). I do believe the wolfson chip in the 5.5g is over-rated. But it is the more smoother sounding ipod to my ears. That may or may not be because of the chip used. There's a lot more that goes into how something sounds than just what dac chip it use. And please don't play the placebo/psycology card here. I will never say what someone else hear or don't hear because I just don't know. If someone tells me their 6th generation ipod sounds better than a 1000.00 dac, I will be the last to say no it doesn't. The only ears I can or ever will hear with are mine and I think it's not wise to ever say what someone else may hear when you don't have their ears to really know if they are actually hearing what they say they hear. It

moodryn, I'm not playing any cards - placebo or otherwise - just saying that, for many here, as soon as they see 'Wolfson' in the specs its cause for wild backflips of anticipation - I dont see it that way. Implementation is everything.

Well we do agree on that. I've seen people say that's the best sounding ipod based solely on that fact the it does use a(very cheap) wolfson chip. Nevermind the higher output impedance and the significantly rolled off base. But all in all, they are all ipods.

I think implementation is very important.  But I also think there is a very good reason that Tim de Paravicini chose Wolfson chips for his new DAC.
 

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Originally Posted by estreeter 

moodryn, I'm not playing any cards - placebo or otherwise - just saying that, for many here, as soon as they see 'Wolfson' in the specs its cause for wild backflips of anticipation - I dont see it that way. Implementation is everything.

Wolfson, Burr-Brown, TI - they can all make silicon, and I think it comes as a huge shock to many when they see the (volume order) price-per-unit for many of these 'legendary' chips.

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Originally Posted by estreeter 

I'd love to be able to conduct a DBT with every model of iPod behind a curtain and a set of M50 or similar in front - put any 10 Head-Fiers through it and publish the results. There is some serious psychology at play as soon as you tell someone that product XYZ has a Wolfson chip in it - any Wolfson chip ....

 

 

I'd like to see that type of test too. I know I prefer the sound of the headphone-out of my Touch 4G with its Cirrus Logic chip better than the headphone-out of my sister's iPod Video 30GB, which I do believe has the "fabled" Wolfson chip.

Of course, I know someone will say,"Well, you shouldn't use the HO, you should use the line-out".....lol

which model is the 7th gen then? according to wikipedia the 6th was the last to be released in 2009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Classic#Sixth_generation

cheers. which model is this then? it comes as 160gb only

http://www.apple.com/uk/ipodclassic/features.html

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Originally Posted by shrimants 

The 7th gen ipod is the same internally as the 6th gen in terms of dac and amp. The only difference is that instead of having 80gigs and 160 gigs, there is a single 120 gig model.

Actually, no, it's not the same.

And no, it's not a 120GB model, it's a 160GB model, but slimmer that the previous 6th generation 160GB model (single-plate hard drive instead of double-plate drive).

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Originally Posted by striker 

 

 

Actually, no, it's not the same.

And no, it's not a 120GB model, it's a 160GB model, but slimmer that the previous 6th generation 160GB model (single-plate hard drive instead of double-plate drive).

is this the 7th gen model then?

http://www.apple.com/uk/ipodclassic/features.html