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post #46 of 120

Thats because the classic is still 6th gen but we are in iteration 2 of it. We just call it 7g and has widely accepted i as such. Its like what we call the ipod 5.5. It is actually just ipod 5g iteration 1.

Try this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipod_classic
 

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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post

Wikipedia clearly needs to update their iPod entry

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipod#Hardware

 

They dont even list a 7th Gen Classic:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iPod_models

 

Mac Rumours tells me 'Dont buy - updates soon' and lists the last release as Sep, 2009, 2 years after the 'Sixth Gen' listed in the Wikipedia article. If I look at the developments among other iPod models over the last 5 years, its pretty clear that Apple havent invested too much into upgrades for the Classic - its all about getting kids onto the Shuffle/Nano as gateway drugs to the Touch or, better yet, an iPhone. 



 


Edited by chef8489 - 11/12/11 at 11:56am
post #47 of 120
Thread Starter 
Boards may be different, but the internal chips are all the same. You are more than welcome to post proper up close macro pictures of the boards to prove FreeMyIpod wrong, but all the main components listed are completely the same. I'd be more than happy if you proved me wrong. Until then, with what knowledge is presented to me, I can only conclude the ipod 6g and 7g are the same.
post #48 of 120

Well believe what you want, and I'm not going to take my ipod apart again just to prove something to you. I really don't care what you believe. And even if I hadn't taken them apart to compare the internals, I have compared the sound of both, and to my ears they sound vastly different. That is a good thing for me since I'm completely happy with the sound I have out of my portable setup now. And that's all that matters to me.

 

This is just me, I would never talk about how something sounds vs something else unless I have listened to both.

post #49 of 120

I've been comparing my new Classic with the 5G I have and the 5G is a bit better but I like both and really need the 160gb capacity.  I plan to solve this some day with a CLAS DAC addition.

post #50 of 120

I might add that I am really amazed how much extra capacity there is in a small package the size of the 5G. 

 

Of course, we are not really surprised these days by the march of computer tech but it really is something.

post #51 of 120
look guys, i have a 7G, 6G and 5G but the headphones i have are no good for critical listening, once i get my shure srh440's i will compare all 3.
post #52 of 120
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by randomkid View Post

look guys, i have a 7G, 6G and 5G but the headphones i have are no good for critical listening, once i get my shure srh440's i will compare all 3.

I dont know of the details of the Shure's, but thanks for your comparison. I'm not sure if there will actually be an audible difference. It would be great if the dude who knows Sonove could ask sonove to do a side by side comparison of the 5g, 5.5g, 6g, and 7g.

When you compare, can you please compare stock headphone outs vs LOD+same amp on all vs CLAS/HPP1 (if you have those)?

I think stock would be the most important comparison because headphone amp comparison would be greatly biased to opinion, since amps are generally purchased according to user preference of sound.
post #53 of 120


 

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Originally Posted by randomkid View Post

look guys, i have a 7G, 6G and 5G but the headphones i have are no good for critical listening, once i get my shure srh440's i will compare all 3.

I dont know of the details of the Shure's, but thanks for your comparison. I'm not sure if there will actually be an audible difference. It would be great if the dude who knows Sonove could ask sonove to do a side by side comparison of the 5g, 5.5g, 6g, and 7g.

When you compare, can you please compare stock headphone outs vs LOD+same amp on all vs CLAS/HPP1 (if you have those)?

I think stock would be the most important comparison because headphone amp comparison would be greatly biased to opinion, since amps are generally purchased according to user preference of sound.

Sonove measured the 7G cause i asked him to and cause he could access to one. I don't think he can get 5.5 or a 6G and i guess he has other audio issues in his agenda.

 

 

post #54 of 120
Thread Starter 
Well that sucks. At least I saw that the 7G tested more or less like pure gold. Thats good enough for me, especially once I get/build an LOD and get.build an amp.
post #55 of 120
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Originally Posted by chef8489 View Post

Thats because the classic is still 6th gen but we are in iteration 2 of it. We just call it 7g and has widely accepted i as such. Its like what we call the ipod 5.5. It is actually just ipod 5g iteration 1.

Try this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipod_classic
 



 


Based on that precedent, the '7G'  should have been tagged '6.5G' - just sayin ..................

 

BTW, am I the only one shaking his head at the way Apple struggled to settle on a 160GB 'final edition' standard for the Classic ? Hey, we have a 120 and a 160, oh lets drop the 160, no lets bring it back and drop the 120 !  Bizarre stuff, Cupertino - reminds me of the old cartoon of the kid on the pushbike - 'Look Ma - no hands ! No feet ! No teeth !'.

 


Edited by estreeter - 11/13/11 at 2:55pm
post #56 of 120

If I can further muddy the waters (!), I had the first iteration of the 6th Gen (purchased late 2008) and I definitely preferred the sound signature of my 6G Nano, a device which also measured extremely well in the figures I posted here (figures which may well have been generated by RMAA, but which the magazine claimed were generated by an 'independent test lab'). The problems with the Nano were but two - everything other than sound quality and everything other than, you guess it, sound quality ....

 

1. As previously mentioned, I loathe iTunes, even though it has come in handy for purchasing some of my music

 

2. The form factor of the 6G Nano is all wrong, IMO - they would have been better off sticking with the earlier 'Apple Remote' design, esp the clickwheel over the touch interface. Its just too gimmicky for mine.

 

3. No question that 16GB of Flash just isn't enough for a serious collection - clearly, thats what the Classic was designed for.

 

I previously stated that I wasnt interested in paying the Apple Tax any more, but a revised Classic with the same form factor and the SQ of the 6G Nano would seriously tempt me.

 

 

post #57 of 120

I wish we had a high capacity flash iPod from Apple.  I wish we would get that but with the whole cloud focus, I wonder if we will ever see that.

post #58 of 120

Comparing various generation ipods for sound quality will never be totally conclusive, having owned all of the variants at some point and now in posession of a 4th gen 32gb touch a 7th gen ipod and a 5.5 gen ipod (video) and a 5.5 gen imod.

To my ears the 5.5 gen ipod sounded better than all of the other basic factory set models  , more musical and less harsh, the 4th generation sounded very similar as I recall, but the point is the sound quality of the later models should be a marked improvement on the earlier models.

Apple have certainly failed in this respect, no question about it, the UI is much improved on the later generations but the sound quality is (in my opinion)  worse.

post #59 of 120

Last week i got on a loan a 5.5G and listening to it for a few days i missed my 7G Classic. The resolution of the former was audibly inferior and spatially i found eveything sounding less open than on the current generation. Overall it reminded me of my good old Cowon X5.

 

I love the percussion on the current Classic. It's really lifelike not as veiled as it sound on the 5.5G.

post #60 of 120

5.5gen ipods are used around here because it is fatter and allows the adding in of a signal capacitor to override the analogue output stage (Red wine/imod etc), the current gens are too slim to do that, although i do admit the analogue output stage sounds better. DAC, subjectively is about the same, if not slightly better (Cirrus Logic vs Wolfson). 
 

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Originally Posted by elfary View Post

Last week i got on a loan a 5.5G and listening to it for a few days i missed my 7G Classic. The resolution of the former was audibly inferior and spatially i found eveything sounding less open than on the current generation. Overall it reminded me of my good old Cowon X5.

 

I love the percussion on the current Classic. It's really lifelike not as veiled as it sound on the 5.5G.



 

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