ZO2 Impression Thread
Nov 9, 2011 at 7:25 AM Post #121 of 1,126
dfkt> recieved yours yet? Would gladly hear some opinions what you think about sound quality of ZO2 compared to ZO1 which I know you really liked.
 
It may have to do with the volume control too I suspect, as it appears to sound better the higher I set volume on ZO2 and a bit lower the source volume. This is no different than other amps I've used though, especially FiiO E5 sounded horrible at very low levels, distorting a little etc but that's a common thing with amps in general.
 
I seem to get the best result with ZO2 set to max vol lvl. At this point you could start debating how important that volume adjustment is in case I'd just keep it at max level all the time anyway. :p Maybe this is what really made ZO1 sound so nice, the lack of volume control? I mean amps doesn't usually lack that so it's kind of hard to base an accurate opinion regarding this.
 
EDIT: Unlike some else said I have no trouble using max contour lvl without getting distortion but I've set ZO2 to max volume and the windows volume control at like 20~25% for these HTF600. The cups vibrate like mad.
 
EDIT2: I'm not so sure there's any noteworthy difference in sound between the ZO1 as long as ZO2 is set to max vol lvl. I will give ZO2 more time before giving further comments on the sound.
 
EDIT3: The lowest level on ZO2 seems to make the bass a tiny bit more punchy than without amp. I kinda miss that ZO1's lowest level I used to use sometimes just to be able to critically listen for distortions and such in a track as it reduced the bass slightly on this level, useful for my bassy headphones.
 
EDIT4: Especially in this track you notice even at the very lowest contour level you get a boost in bass as it seems to happen mostly down at the very deep frequencies. This track plays a constant low frequency bass around 20~35Hz. Seems like ZO2 lowest level about the same or very close to ZO1 = first boosted lvl in bass quantity. Probably talking about some 2dB or so.
 

 
Nov 9, 2011 at 1:15 PM Post #123 of 1,126
 
We appreciate all the ZO 2 first impressions you guys have been providing. We set out armed with your initial feedback from ZO 1 to make the ZO 2 everything you wanted it to be. As part of our commitment to total customer satisfaction, please contact us directly with any feedback - both positive and negative to feedback@digizoid.com so we can address any concerns in a timely basis and ensure the best ZO experience possible.
 
Nov 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM Post #124 of 1,126
Noooo! /cry 
 
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Agree...quite a loud hiss with W4s imo, really disappointing.



Can anyone say anything about the best way to get rid of the hiss? Like is it better to use LOD or certain volume level on source (low/high) + 3.5 to 3.5 to zo and change zo volume (low/high)? 
 
edt: nvm, i hear its the same via 3.5 regardless of source/zo volume....
 
 
 
 
 
Nov 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM Post #125 of 1,126
 
Quote:
 
We appreciate all the ZO 2 first impressions you guys have been providing. We set out armed with your initial feedback from ZO 1 to make the ZO 2 everything you wanted it to be. As part of our commitment to total customer satisfaction, please contact us directly with any feedback - both positive and negative to feedback@digizoid.com so we can address any concerns in a timely basis and ensure the best ZO experience possible.


Please everyone do this.  I have been communicating with digiZoid about these issues and they are serious about addressing our concerns. 
 
Kudos!
 
Nov 9, 2011 at 1:32 PM Post #126 of 1,126
We appreciate all the ZO 2 first impressions you guys have been providing[COLOR=1738F5].[/COLOR] We set out armed with your initial feedback from ZO 1 to make the ZO 2 everything you wanted it to be. As part of our commitment to total customer satisfaction, please contact us directly with any feedback - both positive and negative to feedback@digizoid.com so we can address[COLOR=1738F5] [/COLOR]any[COLOR=1738F5] [/COLOR]concerns in a timely basis and ensure the best ZO experience possible.


If you sort out the hissing (there shouldn't be any) and can make the volume control reasonable for LODs and IEMs I will be making a purchase.
 
Nov 9, 2011 at 1:33 PM Post #127 of 1,126
Well if we all contact them at that address it's hard to know what's already been suggested. =)
 
Don't feel like ending up flooding their email with:
 
"please fix the hissing" or something. :p
 
I'm starting to enjoy the bass response from ZO2, don't know if that's ZO2 that's burning in or my preferences are starting to change though. Sounds great on the lowest lvl with HTF600.
 
Nov 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM Post #128 of 1,126


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Well if we all contact them at that address it's hard to know what's already been suggested. =)
 
Don't feel like ending up flooding their email with:
 
"please fix the hissing" or something. :p


You should, that's exactly the right thing to do, and it's exactly what Digizoid is asking for.
 
So what if they get the same "suggestion" numerous times, that's the whole idea!
 
 
Nov 9, 2011 at 1:59 PM Post #129 of 1,126

 
Quote:
Well if we all contact them at that address it's hard to know what's already been suggested. =)
 
Don't feel like ending up flooding their email with:
 
"please fix the hissing" or something. :p
 
I'm starting to enjoy the bass response from ZO2, don't know if that's ZO2 that's burning in or my preferences are starting to change though. Sounds great on the lowest lvl with HTF600.



I'm not saying do one over the other.  Do both.  Head-Fi is for sharing your thoughts publicly, but if you want something done about it contact digiZoid.  Unless your real name is RPGWiZaRD, they likely won't know who you are to address the problem.  If you're happy with yours then do nothing.
 
 
Nov 9, 2011 at 2:26 PM Post #130 of 1,126
[size=10pt]Quite a loud hiss with W4s imo, really disappointing.[/size]
 
[size=10pt]Adjusting the source volume has no effect on the hiss, at least when using the hp out. With the source (iphone 4) volume all the way down/off the hiss is still clearly noticeable on W4s. I'll try other IEMs/headphones when I get home but I'm not very hopefully, especially for the other IEMs. No matter really since the W4 are what I primarily use. [size=10pt]I'm not sure why Digizoid didn’t test these more thoroughly with IEMs, as the hissing is clearly noticeable. Maybe worse, they did notice and still shipped the product out. Either way, quite disappointing. [/size]Too bad though, I had high hopes but as of now it looks like the ZO2 will be returned.[/size]
 
[size=10pt]One more thing I don’t understand is why the included headphone cord (the short one) doesn’t have a 90 degree plug on at least one side.  I saw on another ZO2 thread Digizoid reps inquiring as to what kind of plug the user base would prefer, 90 degree or straight plugs, and it was clear that the majority if not all users requested 90 degree on at least one side.  [/size]
 
Nov 9, 2011 at 2:39 PM Post #131 of 1,126
 
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Adjusting the source volume has no affect on the hiss, at least when using the hp out.  With the source (iphone 4) volume all the way down/off the hiss is still clearly noticable.


If gain is the issue which seems to be perhaps a bit too high for IEM use then adjusting volume levels won't help. I do however get hissing on my headphones if raising volume to uncomfortable levels with my headphones but that's another story. 
 
EDIT: hmm bass sounds a bit better now (more controlled, tight) for some reason (probably helped when I set vol to ZO on max). I'm pleased atm with the sound, will try and focus on comparing the soundstage / imaging of ZO2 vs 1 next in case there can be found any differences at all.
 
 
Nov 9, 2011 at 4:46 PM Post #132 of 1,126
This is starting to sound like "the ZO2 does not complete me "   :)
 
 
Suggestions......
 
I say give them a chance before you return it, it's only been 2 days.  Regarding some of the issues, my feeling is what are they going to offer or what options we have to the first people who bought them, (if anything). Another question would be how long is it going to take, I'm sure this is something that cannot be fixed in one day.
 
Since we are going to discuss the problems some people are having or dislike about the ZO2.  Let's just make a list and then send it directly to Mizmoxie.
 
Nov 9, 2011 at 5:04 PM Post #133 of 1,126
Well I'm liking my ZO2 (since I'm a headphone user so no hissing here). Now I've kept switching back n forth between ZO1 and ZO2 and there's definitely some differences regarding imaging/positioning. The ZO2 seems to do better than ZO1 here, at least on the lowest contour level I think ZO2 does really really good. There seems to be a little bigger stage (less intimate, in your face) and the positioning is better, the "out-of-box" sound is enhanced similar to what Dolby Headphone does. This is something I'm really enjoying, I listened to a video on youtube with a guy speaking and it sounded like I was in the same room with him.
 

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