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post #106 of 142
2/15/12 at 5:44am
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Originally Posted by floydfan33 View Post



I have just received my HA-160DS, and It is a very poor match for the HE-500. Low volume and anemic bottom end. It was outperformed by a wide margin by my Fiio E9/E17.

 

It's so bad, I contacted Burson, and they indicated that I could ship my amp and my HE-500 to them to optimize. I was unable to get an answer from them on what this optimization might involve. 

 

At nearly $200 to ship from Canada to Australia, this was a non starter.

 

The saving grace, is that with my Lawton LA-7000, they are a match made in heaven! Deep and impactful bass, rich mids and vocals, and controlled high end. The speed and clarity is stunning. My previous systems, Lyr/LCD-2 rev 2 and My HD800 were both well loved, but the HA-160DS with the LA-7000 is damn near perfect.

 

Highly Recommended, just not with the HE-500. 

 


You bought your Burson from Australia ? why ? you can get it from Partconnxion here in Toronto.

 

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post #107 of 142
2/15/12 at 5:47am

I had H160DS for about over a month now and with my Denon 7K it's prefect.

However I am not impressed with DAC section, I still hear hissing and ear piercing trebles. :(

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post #108 of 142
2/15/12 at 7:38am
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I had H160DS for about over a month now and with my Denon 7K it's prefect.

However I am not impressed with DAC section, I still hear hissing and ear piercing trebles. :(


I have similar issues. What music are you listening to? I think its just the Burson's solid state nature coming into play here. Its not forgiving of poor source material, though its not as bad as some of the other gear on the market. I'm considering swapping out my Burson for some tube gear, I need something that lets me still enjoy the lo-fi parts of my music collection.
Edited by MohawkUS - 2/15/12 at 7:39am
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post #109 of 142
2/15/12 at 5:12pm


 

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Originally Posted by Canadian411 View Post

I had H160DS for about over a month now and with my Denon 7K it's prefect.

However I am not impressed with DAC section, I still hear hissing and ear piercing trebles. :(



How about the Audez'e on your sig? 

 

I also own the Ds, but never had any kind of issue with piercing trebles..knowing the warm nature of the dac. 

 

Have you tried connecting to another source? i guess the hissing comes from your PC. 

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post #110 of 142
2/15/12 at 10:21pm
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Originally Posted by Canadian411 View Post


You bought your Burson from Australia ? why ? you can get it from Partconnxion here in Toronto.

 



 

I did purchase from Partsconnexion. For the HE-500 "optimization" Burson wanted it shipped to them.

 

 

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post #111 of 142
2/16/12 at 5:26am
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Originally Posted by MohawkUS View Post


I have similar issues. What music are you listening to? I think its just the Burson's solid state nature coming into play here. Its not forgiving of poor source material, though its not as bad as some of the other gear on the market. I'm considering swapping out my Burson for some tube gear, I need something that lets me still enjoy the lo-fi parts of my music collection.


 

 

I am thinking of getting WA22 fully balanced tube amp. I might keep burson for office use. :)
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post #112 of 142
2/16/12 at 5:26am
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Originally Posted by floydfan33 View Post



 

I did purchase from Partsconnexion. For the HE-500 "optimization" Burson wanted it shipped to them.

 

 



 

 

That sucks !
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post #113 of 142
2/16/12 at 5:27am
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Originally Posted by fabio-fi View Post


 



How about the Audez'e on your sig? 

 

I also own the Ds, but never had any kind of issue with piercing trebles..knowing the warm nature of the dac. 

 

Have you tried connecting to another source? i guess the hissing comes from your PC. 



 

 

LCD2 with Burson it's alright, I was not impressed but definitely made my LCD2 warmer.
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post #114 of 142
2/20/12 at 2:35am

To you all:

 

Whats your favourite headphone for the 160DS?

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post #115 of 142
2/23/12 at 7:35am


 

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To you all:

 

Whats your favourite headphone for the 160DS?



I really like the synergy with my Pro750's. The others work fine as well. 

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post #116 of 142
3/28/12 at 5:11am
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Originally Posted by everlong View Post

To you all:

 

Whats your favourite headphone for the 160DS?



 

 

Well for me, between AH-D7000 and LCD2, I have to go with AH-D7000, I notice significant difference, for example, bass is lot more harder and deeper and reduces bit of trebles which makes AH-D7000 a fun headphone. :)
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post #117 of 142
4/11/12 at 6:16am

Hey Guys - I've been auditioning the HA 160D and really like the sound signature it has.  But its a little out of my budget - how does the DS compare to the D? I've read there is a little less bass and a little less detail resolution - is that true? It kind of worries me, as while the price appeals I want to get the same sound.  Any advice from those that have heard them?

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post #118 of 142
4/11/12 at 8:09am
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Looks like only 250mW max...Not ideal for orthos IMO:

 

"Output power: 250mW (less than 1% distortion)"

 

http://bursonaudio.com/HA_160DS.html

 

My Auditor has similar low output on paper but it can power HE-4 with ease.
 

 

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post #119 of 142
4/11/12 at 11:30am
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Originally Posted by avl06 View Post

Hey Guys - I've been auditioning the HA 160D and really like the sound signature it has.  But its a little out of my budget - how does the DS compare to the D? I've read there is a little less bass and a little less detail resolution - is that true? It kind of worries me, as while the price appeals I want to get the same sound.  Any advice from those that have heard them?



Havent done an A/B comparison between them (D version vs Ds)

burson says they are identical, except for the stepped attenuator, inputs and the transformers. It shouldnt be a difference (or a big difference)

one thing with the Ds it needs some burn in for the bass to tighten up, at least 40+ hours.

 

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post #120 of 142
4/11/12 at 4:55pm
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My Auditor has similar low output on paper but it can power HE-4 with ease.
 

 



No doubt that both amps will drive the HE-4 or HE-500 with ease and sound quite good, but IME, orthos really open up with more power.

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