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Feb 12, 2014 at 10:42 AM Post #9,091 of 11,286
What EQ settings did you have it on?
 
Also - Impedance and sensitivity on this scale is far different to car audio, you very rarely ever come across over powering.
 
Not to mention, you'll never need external capacitors, or worry about voltage drops/spikes.. Thankfully, we are lucky in this regard 
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But, be aware, you have a host of new problems. For example: Output impedance. It might not matter now, but if you ever look into IEMs, it will.
 
When I was really into car audio, the idea of a multi-driver IEM really interested me, and is what kick-started my interest in headphones and portable gear. 
 
But anyway:
 
In terms of maximum handling capacity ratings on headphones, the reason those values aren't listed, is because it just plainly isn't necessary. We needn't worry about such things, luckily. 
 
If this answer seems a bit weird, sorry, I haven't slept in a long time - long long gig hours, can't leave site, so I'm on head-fi during my breaks.
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM Post #9,092 of 11,286
At that time it was 
80 +8
 
Mach3Bass was not able to be active beyond 1 because is sounded terrible but less than +8 at 80Hz and there was no punch. The Beats were really not very adjustable.  My Cowon only touches the sub 50Hz realm with it's machbass tweak and the Fiio e12 had 1 switch for Bass but it's at a low end. It feels like a bump around 50Hz. The Fiio's boost is essential but its taking a tweaked signal from the Cowon and passing it to the amp which is further tweaking it. I figured it out finally so maybe my learning curve is related to the Beats blowing but that seemed too damn easy for "Bass cans". I do no EQ boosting now and just do the Mach3bass +7  BBE 10 and amp switch which seem to work well together to give really nice low end. I might get the X5 because I saw the slider at 50Hz
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Feb 12, 2014 at 2:56 PM Post #9,093 of 11,286
so after spending some time with the D2000 i must say im impressed. the treble isnt fatiguing at all, so for now i think im gonna leave it alone and forgo eqing the peaks out. also, judging by the headroom frequency graph, ill have a hard time finding them anyway since they dont seem to be all that pronounced. 
 
mids seem fine, i havent got much to say about them either way. its the bass im most surprised with. while i enjoy the quality, the quantity is much lower than the m-100, and i have to eq it more heavily then i had anticipated. these things are described as being very bass capable and i just dont feel it. they arent nearly as responsive to eq as the dt770s and i sometimes use two instances just to get the sub bass the way i want it to be. i imagine its because the (stock) boost is smaller to begin with.
however, im enjoying the (obviously) relative linearity of these headphones. i still havnt got the eq settings just right, so im sure that with time (and perhaps with some alpha pads) these will replace the m-100 as my desktop headphone.
 
any thoughts from other d2k owners?
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 4:25 PM Post #9,095 of 11,286
adamlr said:
  so after spending some time with the D2000 i must say im impressed. the treble isnt fatiguing at all, so for now i think im gonna leave it alone and forgo eqing the peaks out. also, judging by the headroom frequency graph, ill have a hard time finding them anyway since they dont seem to be all that pronounced. 
 
mids seem fine, i havent got much to say about them either way. its the bass im most surprised with. while i enjoy the quality, the quantity is much lower than the m-100, and i have to eq it more heavily then i had anticipated. these things are described as being very bass capable and i just dont feel it. they arent nearly as responsive to eq as the dt770s and i sometimes use two instances just to get the sub bass the way i want it to be. i imagine its because the (stock) boost is smaller to begin with.
however, im enjoying the (obviously) relative linearity of these headphones. i still havnt got the eq settings just right, so im sure that with time (and perhaps with some alpha pads) these will replace the m-100 as my desktop headphone.
 
any thoughts from other d2k owners?
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Well I'm shocked they seem much bass lighter than the M100.  I've had the M100 twice and don't experience what you are with it.  One thing is the D2000 seemed to need more oomph than the M100 for sure to be driven to their capability.  Meaning in my case a vintage amp - which makes the D2000 a monster.  I've got Alpha pads and extra deep Martin Custom cups on them and Lawton damping on the driver.  Amazing bass in every way. 
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 8:44 PM Post #9,099 of 11,286
white lotus said:
   
 
 
 
I'm very sure it's the cowon distorting, not your headphones or amp. I haven't had much experience with them before, however.
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Cowon volume at 34 as always. I turn it on and then use the amp and the gain/volume....slowly of course. I can't imagine the Cowon is the culprit and not the beats. The cowon passed the signal to the amp so i imagined it must be from the closest like in the chain....and an amp makes sense. The Cowon I don't get ..it's a nightmare UI but the sound is very awesome. Thanks for the feedback
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 8:57 PM Post #9,100 of 11,286
It's using a software EQ - these can distort if pushed too hard. Ever tried to use additive eq with iTunes? It's a nightmare.

Try putting your bass frequencies flat, then dropping down everything else by 6-10. It will require a bit more volume from your amp, but might give a better result.
 
Feb 12, 2014 at 9:22 PM Post #9,102 of 11,286
peterek said:
  I'm very surprised by this graph.
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Ditto.  What could be the cause - it shows no sub or any bass.  Is that a 'stock' graph for a D2000?  Makes no sense at all.
 
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