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mshenay said:

Tempting... i'm buying a D3 soon... <.< $350 is a tempting budget to waste on moar goodies... and surely mom will yell at me for it >.> 

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Are you talking about the Cowon D3? Or is there another D3 out there? Haha.

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Are you talking about the Cowon D3? Or is there another D3 out there? Haha.

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xD Cowon of course, and I'll be content with just Geting the D3... I don't need to be spending any more cash >.> 

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xD Cowon of course, and I'll be content with just Geting the D3... I don't need to be spending any more cash >.> 

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I have heard some pretty negative stuff about the D3; I personally know someone who has one, and he was complaining that it was rather laggy and buggy. I would suggest you get the D3's successor, the Cowon Z2. It's essentially an improved version of the D3.

For some reason I can not edit the lists in the OP. So here's the updated list made by Malevolent

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mshenay said:

xD Cowon of course, and I'll be content with just Geting the D3... I don't need to be spending any more cash >.> 

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I have heard great things about the clip+ and its sucessor with the same SQ the Clip Zip
 
If your planning on going into Z2 territorry check out the Sony WM-Z its the best DAP out IMO 

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I have heard some pretty negative stuff about the D3; I personally know someone who has one, and he was complaining that it was rather laggy and buggy. I would suggest you get the D3's successor, the Cowon Z2. It's essentially an improved version of the D3.

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Ginger BRead update, yea the D3 was slow b4 the Ginger BRead update, but after wards it runs just fine

I don't know if the HFI-780 should be considered basshead worthy. They have less bass than the M50s I have. The 780s are more suited towards trebleheads.

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I don't know if the HFI-780 should be considered basshead worthy. They have less bass than the M50s I have. The 780s are more suited towards trebleheads.

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ahh, yes plus I don't really need to buy anything elese, the D3's EQ and my E6 should be enough for me to balance out what ever im listening to

Well, I was replying to Parall3l's post, but I guess it will cover both posts I believe the HFI-580 or ATH-M50s are the better headphones to get if you like to have bass though. Here's a little frequency comparison graph to demonstrate:

 
If you want the bassiest headphones, you can take a look at the ATH-PRO700MKII.
 
Anyways, I was wondering why the Cowon D3/J3 is highly recommended for a DAP. Is it just because of the eq enhancements it offers? I think that the samsung galaxy player lineup is the better player for the money.
 
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It will be a matter of time until somebody is able to enable USB host on the galaxy player, allowing amp/dacs like the FiiO E17 to run through the micro usb port. Heck, people have already ported Cyanogenmod 7/9 on the galaxy players with modded kernels and whatnot.

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Well, I was replying to Parall3l's post, but I guess it will cover both posts I believe the HFI-580 or ATH-M50s are the better headphones to get if you like to have bass though. Here's a little frequency comparison graph to demonstrate:

 
If you want the bassiest headphones, you can take a look at the ATH-PRO700MKII.
 
Anyways, I was wondering why the Cowon D3/J3 is highly recommended for a DAP. Is it just because of the eq enhancements it offers? I think that the samsung galaxy player lineup is the better player for the money.
 
Geek Speech:
It will be a matter of time until somebody is able to enable USB host on the galaxy player, allowing amp/dacs like the FiiO E17 to run through the micro usb port. Heck, people have already ported Cyanogenmod 7/9 on the galaxy players with modded kernels and whatnot.

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Lawl if your basing bass response on FR chart, look at the FR for Sony XB 700... It starts up and around 20 (dbr) and goes down, hence is why XB700 isn't really great for more tradtional music as the mids are not as pleasent as they could be
 
What I'm looking for is a more detailed quality bass can, Ultra Pro 900 is regulary $500... so that sounds like a great can to get next :3 [300 on B&H]
 
I'm getting a D3 soon, with optical out cord, I'll let you know how it is ;D

I've been wanting to try out the xb500/700 and see how they stack up against my headphones, but i'm broke...I know they'll sound like crap though.

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I've been wanting to try out the xb500/700 and see how they stack up against my headphones, but i'm broke...I know they'll sound like crap though.

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Psh lies, the XB 700 doesn't sound bad at all, with an E6 it's pretty cool, with an E11 it's most epic. Plus you can mod the XB700 for better highs and deeper Sub bass detail... so don't be hating xD, but also don't listen to any jazz on the XB series lol they pretty much fail with anything that's not meant to be dark

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For some reason I can not edit the lists in the OP. So here's the updated list made by Malevolent

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Audeze
LCD-2 - ($995.00)
LCD-3 - ($1945.00)
 
Audio-Technica
ES7 - ($119.00

)
PRO700 (Allen & Heath XD-53) - ($179.00)
PRO500MK2 - ($124.00)
PRO700MK2 - ($159.00)
WS55 - ($99.99)
WS70 - ($129.99)
 
AKG
K81 DJ - ($49.00)
K181 DJ - ($129.00)
K518 DJ - ($79.99

)
 
Beats by Dr. Dre
Beats Studio - ($299.99)
Beats Pro - ($399.99)
 
Beyerdynamic
DT770 PRO - ($199.99

)
 
Denon
DJ DN-HP700 - (~$120.00

)
DJ DN-HP1000 - ($129.99

)
D1001 - (Discontinued)
D1100 - ($199.99)
D2000 - ($349.99)
D5000 - ($699.99)
D7000 - ($999.99)
AH-A100 (Limited 100th Anniversary model)
 
Equation Audio
RP-22x - ($99.00

)
 
JVC
DX1000
DX700
HA-M5X - ($42.99)
HA-S4X - ($34.99)
 
Lawton Audio
Modded LA2000 Lite, LA2000, LA7000 - found HERE
 
M-Audio
Q40 - (~$120.00

)
 
Monoprice
MHP-839 - ($23.20)
 
Panasonic
RP-HTF600 - ($29.99

)
 
Phiaton
MS 400 - ($229.00)
 
Pioneer
HDJ-500 - ($89.99)
HDJ-1000 - ($139.00)
HDJ-2000 - ($279.95)

Prodipe
Pro800 - (~$40.00

)

Sennheiser
HD25-1 II - ($199.95)
HD25 Amperior - ($349.95)
 
Shure
SRH750DJ - ($149.99)
 
Skullcandy
Aviator - ($139.99

)
Hesh 2 - ($59.99

)
Mix Master Mike - ($299.95)
 
Smeggy Thunderpants
Modded Fostex T50RP, made by Head-fi'er smeggy - found HERE
 
Sony
XB300 - ($38.99)
XB500 - ($59.99)
XB700 - ($89.99)
XB1000 - (~$350.00)
R10 (Bass version)

 
Stax
Omega 2
 
Superlux
HD651  - ($40.00)
 
TakeT
H2
 
Technics
RP-DJ1200 - ($169.00

)
 
Ultrasone
HFI 580 (DJ1) - ($189.00)
HFI 780 - ($249.00)
PRO 750 - ($389.00)
PRO 900 - ($550.00)
PRO 2900 - ($550.00)
 
V-MODA
Crossfade LP - ($110.99

)
Crossfade LP2 - ($199.99)
Crossfade M-80 - ($199.99)
True Blood V-80 - ($199.99)
 
 

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Glad to be of help, Parall3l.
 
Did you try adding a new list? I'm not sure if it works..
 
 

mshenay said:

Ginger BRead update, yea the D3 was slow b4 the Ginger BRead update, but after wards it runs just fine
 

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My friend tells me that it still runs slow after the upgrade to Gingerbread. I'm not sure how bad it is, since I never got to play with the D3. Still, if you have the cash to spend, you might want to consider either the Cowon Z2 or the Sony Walkman Z, 2 of the best DAPs out there.

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I don't know if the HFI-780 should be considered basshead worthy. They have less bass than the M50s I have. The 780s are more suited towards trebleheads.

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From memory, the HFI 780 produces more bass than the M50, albeit not as much as its sibling, the HFI 580. The latter is much bassier than the M50, both in quantity and quality.
 
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I've been wanting to try out the xb500/700 and see how they stack up against my headphones, but i'm broke...I know they'll sound like crap though.

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Ampless, both the XB700 and PRO700MK2 produce roughly equal levels of bass quantity. Both are very punchy and produce a rumbling low end that has a slow decay to it. The XB500 has greater mid-bass quantity than both cans, and this is readily apparent due to enhanced impact and attack.
 
In terms of bass quality, all 3 are roughly similar, but if I'll nitpick, I'd say the PRO700MK2 details the bass notes with more clarity. All 3 are extremely fun cans that all bassheads should try/own.

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In terms of bass quality, all 3 are roughly similar, but if I'll nitpick, I'd say the PRO700MK2 details the bass notes with more clarity. All 3 are extremely fun cans that all bassheads should try/own.

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When I first got the pros (this is when I just used the dt250 pads, nothing else), they sounded VERY similar to my m50s (also with dt250 pads on), bass quantity and all. I'll do a short comparo between the Pros, M50s, and the GBH-1000 (my modded pros. Check sig for more info):
 
Bass Pros: More controlled, focused, deeper
Bass M50s: Wider, More rumble, a bit more impact than the pros, but is more muddy. 
Bass GBH: combine characteristics above (minus the muddiness) and double impact. 
 
Mids Pros: Beefy, a bit congested, recessed
Mids M50s: Recessed, thin
Mids GBH: Airy, forward, really good imaging
 
Treble Pros: Smooth, Distant
Treble M50s: Sparkly, Sharp, Airy 
Treble GBH: Combine characteristics above and add more emphasis
 
Soundstage Pros: Not very wide, but has depth
Soundstage M50s: Wider than Pros, seems to extend more vertically than the Pros, more separation. 
Soundstage GBH: Tough one to describe, but it is better than both. Great separation and blackness. It's easier to recognize the placement than the other cans. I believe that it is larger than both. 
 

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Ampless, both the XB700 and PRO700MK2 produce roughly equal levels of bass quantity. Both are very punchy and produce a rumbling low end that has a slow decay to it. The XB500 has greater mid-bass quantity than both cans, and this is readily apparent due to enhanced impact and attack.

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Thanks for the info. Seems like I won't be buying them after all. If the Stock pros rival them, then that means my version will blow them out the water 

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From memory, the HFI 780 produces more bass than the M50, albeit not as much as its sibling, the HFI 580. The latter is much bassier than the M50, both in quantity and quality.

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I guess that's because I have the earlier version of the M50s (Blue Box) which is known to have more bass emphasis. Maybe Parall3l should add the M50s Blue Box version to the list. Mine rivals the Pro's with velour pads installed on both headphones.
 
When both are stock, my m50s have more bass impact than the pros (the pads on the pros are at fault).
 
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