The Basshead Club

pocketsmiley said:

I wouldn't consider his fabrications harmful (misinformation is only dangerous if convincing, and he is not convincing). Not trying to give him credibility, but he does own the HA-MR55X (public instagram linked to his site; @NewWaveAudio I suggest setting it to private since you have very private information in there). Judging from how he posts pics of his new cans religiously (he is apparently very religious), he most likely never owned the MR77X. As someone who was raised as a Christian, I forgive you @NewWaveAudio if you ever lied to us. If we were wrong, please forgive us, but you had better lawyer up.

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I disagree. There's always someone out there that'll be unsuspecting enough to believe anything. People should always be called out on their BS, especially on a site like this where mostly everything is subjective.

Any news on the new V-Moda XS and whether its basshead material or not? They look promising. And sexy.. 

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(Btw, always keen to have you guys on-board for Instagram, some great Head-fi action there. PM me for my username!)

xkonfuzed said:

  Any news on the new V-Moda XS and whether its basshead material or not? They look promising. And sexy.. 

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http://gizmodo.com/v-moda-xs-headphones-review-indestructible-cans-with-r-1551890986
 
FWIW..
 
I never bought the M100 though I like the sound. I ended up with sms dj Pro which sound similar but hit just a tad harder. I never use them... never. With just an ipod classic the sms are cool but with an amp and my basshead slope the M100 and SMS Dj's fail at almost the same point which is interesting since they are tuned very much alike. Amongst my friends the M100 are probably the most common. All the dudes that owned beats moved on to V-moda.

yeah sorry! (edited)

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bring on that eq post @PocketSmiley ...that is good stuff for folks to know

hawaiibadboy said:

  http://gizmodo.com/v-moda-xs-headphones-review-indestructible-cans-with-r-1551890986
 
FWIW..
 
I never bought the M100 though I like the sound. I ended up with sms dj Pro which sound similar but hit just a tad harder. I never use them... never. With just an ipod classic the sms are cool but with an amp and my basshead slope the M100 and SMS Dj's fail at almost the same point which is interesting since they are tuned very much alike. Amongst my friends the M100 are probably the most common. All the dudes that owned beats moved on to V-moda.

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"The XS have a dynamic and powerful high-end response. The lows and middle are there, but feel a little flaccid. I would prefer a richer low-end. As for sound stage, it's basically non-existent. My theory is that the small cups and light clamping pressure are really hurting their ability to create a good seal from the outside world, which aversely affects the sound quality. They never quite feel like they're covering your whole ear."
 
Well that was sad to read..

decibel23 said:

I disagree. There's always someone out there that'll be unsuspecting enough to believe anything. People should always be called out on their BS, especially on a site like this where mostly everything is subjective.

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True. I just didn't want to give the impression that his opinions are significant in a way d: Some people might get the wrong ideas, thinking that they hold some destructive power. They could rationalize thus reinforce their behavior.
 
Also, could you please remove the link in the quote? Thanks. It was useful to prove a point, but it shouldn't be permanently shared to everyone.

xkonfuzed said:

   
"The XS have a dynamic and powerful high-end response. The lows and middle are there, but feel a little flaccid. I would prefer a richer low-end. As for sound stage, it's basically non-existent. My theory is that the small cups and light clamping pressure are really hurting their ability to create a good seal from the outside world, which aversely affects the sound quality. They never quite feel like they're covering your whole ear."
 
Well that was sad to read..

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 Yeah...the words "lows" and "flaccid" so close together.....

Also looks like they're another on-ear affair, sucks for a lot of people who hate that kinda thing like me.

This is the "extreme" basshead setup I use for Windows. This is most likely not the most optimized solution, but this is how I do it. I posted this in the SZ2000 thread, and is here because Hawaii says so. Please share yours as well!
 
Foobar's built-in EQ is very limited. A parametric equalizer would give you the most freedom. If you're already using Windows (Vista, 7, or 8/8.1), you should get Equalizer APO. Here is a head-fi thread dedicated to it. Basically, Equalizer APO allows detailed control of the built-in Windows sound modules, so it only installs the controller (no GUI) and you set the settings in the file "config.txt" under "C:\Program Files\EqualizerAPO\config". Any changes you make in config.txt affects the sound in real-time. You can read the head-fi thread for very quick tutorials, but I promise that it only looks complex at first. Inside my config.txt is this:
 
Filter 1: ON PEQ Fc 25,0 Hz Gain 15,0 dB Q 1,000
Filter 2: ON PEQ Fc 3000,0 Hz Gain 5,0 dB Q 1,000
 
Red is the center frequency in Hz (comma means decimal), blue is the level, and green is the width of the curve (when using "Q", 0 is the widest, and affects the entire spectrum, while 10 limits the boost to just the center frequency). Filter 1 boosts the bass at 25Hz, which is my preferred depth (you can experiment on your preference). Filter 2 compensates for the recessed midrange of the HA-MR77X.
 

 
Some head-fiers made a GUI for it, most used is jiiteepee's FPEQGUI-10MC, head-fi thread here. Using the GUI, Filter 1 above looks like this:
 

 
If you want to try the built-in Bass Boost in Windows (your sound card driver may or may not support this), try the following:
 

 
The 50Hz bass boost won't sound good on the "Rah" track though, since the bass is already boosted in that song (which is why it's a great basshead test). Combining the 50Hz bass boost with Equalizer APO turns most songs (with bass kicks) into basshead tracks. Imagine that deep thud from Rah going 300 beats per minute in a death metal song (try this).
 
I still need to experiment more. The effect of the Windows built-in bass boost can be simulated in Equalizer APO by using the following settings:
 
Preamp: -18 dB
Filter 1: ON PEQ Fc 25,0 Hz Gain 15,0 dB Q 1,000
Filter 2: ON PEQ Fc 50,0 Hz Gain 18,0 dB Q 1,000
Filter 3: ON PEQ Fc 3000,0 Hz Gain 5,0 dB Q 1,000
 
See how straightforward it is to bump a certain frequency? I still think the above can be simplified further.
 
I'll try to get JetAudio for PC again as I haven't used it in a while. I already forgot how the X-Bass effect sounded like.
 
This PC setup is actually based on my Android setup, which uses JetAudio for Android and the built-in DSP Manager for Cyanogenmod 10.

pocketsmiley said:

This is the "extreme" basshead setup I use for Windows. This is most likely not the most optimized solution, but this is how I do it. I posted this in the SZ2000 thread, and is here because Hawaii says so. Please share yours as well!

Foobar's built-in EQ is very limited. A parametric equalizer would give you the most freedom. If you're already using Windows (Vista, 7, or 8/8.1), you should get Equalizer APO. Here is a head-fi thread dedicated to it. Basically, Equalizer APO allows detailed control of the built-in Windows sound modules, so it only installs the controller (no GUI) and you set the settings in the file "config.txt" under "C:\Program Files\EqualizerAPO\config". Any changes you make in config.txt affects the sound in real-time. You can read the head-fi thread for very quick tutorials, but I promise that it only looks complex at first. Inside my config.txt is this:

Filter 1: ON PEQ Fc [COLOR=FF0000]25,0 Hz[/COLOR] Gain [COLOR=00FFFF]15,0 dB[/COLOR] Q [COLOR=00FF00]1,000[/COLOR]

Filter 2: ON PEQ Fc [COLOR=FF0000]3000,0 Hz[/COLOR] Gain [COLOR=00FFFF]5,0 dB[/COLOR] Q [COLOR=00FF00]1,000[/COLOR]

Red is the center frequency in Hz (comma means decimal), blue is the level, and green is the width of the curve (when using "Q", 0 is the widest, and affects the entire spectrum, while 10 limits the boost to just the center frequency). Filter 1 boosts the bass at 25Hz, which is my preferred depth (you can experiment on your preference). Filter 2 compensates for the recessed midrange of the HA-MR77X.




Some head-fiers made a GUI for it, most used is jiiteepee's FPEQGUI-10MC, head-fi thread here. Using the GUI, Filter 1 above looks like this:




If you want to try the built-in Bass Boost in Windows (your sound card driver may or may not support this), try the following:

The 50Hz bass boost won't sound good on the "Rah" track though, since the bass is already boosted in that song (which is why it's a great basshead test). Combining the 50Hz bass boost with Equalizer APO turns most songs (with bass kicks) into basshead tracks. Imagine that deep thud from Rah going 300 beats per minute in a death metal song (try this).

I'll try to get JetAudio for PC again as I haven't used it in a while. I already forgot how the X-Bass effect sounded like.

This PC setup is actually based on my Android setup, which uses JetAudio for Android and the built-in DSP Manager for Cyanogenmod 10.

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Nice. Don't think I have bass boost though. I have the Realtech HD soundcard. DSP doesn't work on my phone, because I modded the audio

pocketsmiley said:

  This is the "extreme" basshead setup I use for Windows. This is most likely not the most optimized solution, but this is how I do it. I posted this in the SZ2000 thread, and is here because Hawaii says so. Please share yours as well!
 
Foobar's built-in EQ is very limited. A parametric equalizer would give you the most freedom. If you're already using Windows (Vista, 7, or 8/8.1), you should get Equalizer APO. Here is a head-fi thread dedicated to it. Basically, Equalizer APO allows detailed control of the built-in Windows sound modules, so it only installs the controller (no GUI) and you set the settings in the file "config.txt" under "C:\Program Files\EqualizerAPO\config". Any changes you make in config.txt affects the sound in real-time. You can read the head-fi thread for very quick tutorials, but I promise that it only looks complex at first. Inside my config.txt is this:
 
Filter 1: ON PEQ Fc 25,0 Hz Gain 15,0 dB Q 1,000
Filter 2: ON PEQ Fc 3000,0 Hz Gain 5,0 dB Q 1,000
 
Red is the center frequency in Hz (comma means decimal), blue is the level, and green is the width of the curve (when using "Q", 0 is the widest, and affects the entire spectrum, while 10 limits the boost to just the center frequency). Filter 1 boosts the bass at 25Hz, which is my preferred depth (you can experiment on your preference). Filter 2 compensates for the recessed midrange of the HA-MR77X.
 

 
Some head-fiers made a GUI for it, most used is jiiteepee's FPEQGUI-10MC, head-fi thread here. Using the GUI, Filter 1 above looks like this:
 

 
If you want to try the built-in Bass Boost in Windows (your sound card driver may or may not support this), try the following:
 

 
The 50Hz bass boost won't sound good on the "Rah" track though, since the bass is already boosted in that song (which is why it's a great basshead test). Combining the 50Hz bass boost with Equalizer APO turns most songs (with bass kicks) into basshead tracks. Imagine that deep thud from Rah going 300 beats per minute in a death metal song (try this).
 
I'll try to get JetAudio for PC again as I haven't used it in a while. I already forgot how the X-Bass effect sounded like.
 
This PC setup is actually based on my Android setup, which uses JetAudio for Android and the built-in DSP Manager for Cyanogenmod 10.

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This is ******* epic!
This is the **** I thought only I did that and you got a whole system for doing it on a PC and an android. ******* sicc!!
 
+15 a@25Hz is my thing man...I hope anyone trying to dig deeper than their sliders takes note of this post. This should be one of the pages in the Gospel of BASS
 
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If these are accurate then I'm boosting "rah" at +5.5 + 13 = +18.5dB @50Hz
                                                                                   +12dB @25Hz
 
Which explains why everything is failing under this slope (aside from the 77, sz2000 and Pro 900 which didn't fail but refused to go there). Rah is boosted but it's getting boosted more.... +18.5 at 50Hz
 
Assuming the Cowon is accurately sending off the Mach3bass +8 tweak off to the fiio.  This is why my head and upper neck vibrate...Good times!! 

Anybody tried the JBL Synchros S700 http://www.jbl.com/estore/jbl/us/products/S700/SYNCHRO%20700_JBL_US