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redbull said:

 
Thanks for testing for me.
 
 
Guys, do you (heavy) stack Audio-gd on top of each other?  like Master8 on top of Ref. 7.1?  (with some non-conductive layer of course)

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I have it on top of my Ref-8, separated with some dense foam discs.

In between tracks, it is as silent as if the system is powered off.

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lmswjm said:

In between tracks, it is as silent as if the system is powered off.

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THeres a few impressions of the Master 8/6 with the HE-6s in the HE-6 thread. But i was wondering if you had anything more indepth? or if you had the opportunity to compare the Master 6 with any other amps that are known to run the HE-6s well? such as some of those integrateds people are talking about. or any higher end speaker amps.
 
I've decided on the HE-6s but im doing research now to pick an amp. and oddly enough i didnt like them with the Dark Star, but i loved them running out of a AMB B24 speaker amp.
 
Edit: i just have a really hard time believing that this thing can push 7watts class A into a 50 ohm load. thats 374mAs of quiescent current, which is kind of hard to beleive, that thing would be stupid hot all the time unless you were running HE-6s at like max volume. Not to mention the Master 8 just doesnt look like it has enough capacitors -_-

Well if you don't believe the spec's Kingwa states, why are you interested? And yeah, it's hot.

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tim3320070 said:

Well if you don't believe the spec's Kingwa states, why are you interested? And yeah, it's hot.

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Its not that i dont believe it, its that i have a hard time believing it. And i want to believe it, cause i would love to own one, i just want to make sure that its powerful enough for the HE-6s. And i was hoping one of you would convince me that it really does put out 7watts class A into 50ohms

Okay, paint me cornfused then on what you mean and want- rocking my brains out to the Master-5/ Ref-8/ DT770-600 right now.

he's been putting out 5+ watts hp systems for a couple of years now.  Even his low end amps have several watts.  I'm sure it's a fully ballanced class a design probably with class a power supplies.  I have no idea if it's still class a at 7 watts though - but at the lower imedances I thought it did stay class a (ie when it's in master-5 mode).
 

Yeah the website can be kind of ambiguous. Ill probably just end up sending an email to Kingwa to ask him, hes always been pretty responsive to questions in the past

In my opinion Audio-gd gear sounds much better with space between components on separate shelves. I try to position gear so that transformers are as far away from each other as possible.

Regards

Andrew

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Its not that i dont believe it, its that i have a hard time believing it. And i want to believe it, cause i would love to own one, i just want to make sure that its powerful enough for the HE-6s. And i was hoping one of you would convince me that it really does put out 7watts class A into 50ohms

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I think everyone who has heard the Master-6/8 can confirm that it absolutely has enougth power for the HE-6's. There is no issues with power at all.
If Hifiman themselves bring out an amp designed purely for the HE-6's that only produces 5 watts into 50 ohms then 7 watts as got to be plenty.
 
In reality does the Master-6 need to be producing 7 watts into 50 ohms ALL the time? It's already been stated that the Master-6 will never need to switch out of class A running the HE-6's so the Master-6 certainly is not struggling at any humane volume.

Not really you would go deaf

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THeres a few impressions of the Master 8/6 with the HE-6s in the HE-6 thread. But i was wondering if you had anything more indepth? or if you had the opportunity to compare the Master 6 with any other amps that are known to run the HE-6s well? such as some of those integrateds people are talking about. or any higher end speaker amps.
 
I've decided on the HE-6s but im doing research now to pick an amp. and oddly enough i didnt like them with the Dark Star, but i loved them running out of a AMB B24 speaker amp.
 
Edit: i just have a really hard time believing that this thing can push 7watts class A into a 50 ohm load. thats 374mAs of quiescent current, which is kind of hard to beleive, that thing would be stupid hot all the time unless you were running HE-6s at like max volume. Not to mention the Master 8 just doesnt look like it has enough capacitors -_-

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I had the HE6 for a while. Only real listening was done with the Phoenix and Master 6. Master 6 definitely better of course, but Phoenix was no slouch, especially with higher level recordings.
 
I don't doubt that M6 pushes 7 watts, but the HE6 handles them with no signs of stress at all. That always made me wonder if there was more to be had. Yes, there is enough power for loud volume, but was the voltage swing optimal? I never got a chance to hear them with any other amps before I sold them. I would have liked to hear them off of a speaker amp to answer those questions, but never got the chance. Ultimately, I didn't feel compelled to pursue a potential dedicated rig for the HE6. However, I know LarsHP really likes his Master 6 / HE6 combo. What was the overall consensus with the Master 6/8 in the HE6 thread?
 
BTW, what didn't you like about the Dark Star? Didn't Skylab write that was his best HE6 experience, even slightly better than his vintage receivers? If you preferred the speaker amp over the Dark Star, I doubt that the Master 8 could trump that.

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I have it on top of my Ref-8, separated with some dense foam discs.

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Dense foam disc? How does it look like? You have photos of how you stack your gear?
I ask because my space is very limited, and I have my other amps too.
Thinking how to efficiently make space for it.

lmswjm said:

In between tracks, it is as silent as if the system is powered off.

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^ This with what phone?

macrog said:

In my opinion Audio-gd gear sounds much better with space between components on separate shelves. I try to position gear so that transformers are as far away from each other as possible.
Regards
Andrew

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Good idea to seperate trasformer as much as possible, but I also have limited height on my table, so separating each amp with rack is a bit tough, although I actually really want to separate each amp with rack tray so to avoid scratches to the surface of the amp.


Btw, how's Master 8 handle high impedance phones like HD650, T1 or HD800?
Any report on that?
I don't have them, but just in case.

Discs are those black foam air port fillers for speakers, about 3" diameter x 3" long- they compress to about 1" so that's the space between the Ref-8 and M5 (hard to show in a pic).

I get what you mean though. So it's the soft type.