Over damped. Dead? Never really thought veil was good word for it either. But then again the cheapest amp I've ever heard the HD650 from was an EHHA. I don't think I've ever plugged in that headphone into a poor matching amp. There was also talk about the HD650 driver being replaced with something more lively sounding.
Edited by purrin - 9/30/11 at 3:53pm