this is for the xbox 360 for fps gaming
 

1. ath ad700  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/tags-on-product/B000CMS0XU
2. turtle beach earforce dss  http://www.amazon.com/Force-Channel-Dolby-Surround-Processor-Mac/dp/B003O0KICS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312664892&sr=8-1
3. mini clip on mic  http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mini-clip-on-microphone-7080
4. 3.5mm to 2.5 mm adapter http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Adapter-3-5mm-2-5mm-Converter/dp/B000LMBJMA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1312665268&sr=1-1

 
any suggestions?

Well, what exactly is your limit budget wise?  The weakest links I see there are the DSS, because it's very noisy, and the clip-on mic.  I've no experience with that particular clip on mic, but I do know that popular consensus for other clip on mics like the zalman one never pick up enough volume for console gaming.  Boom mics like the labtec one are better.
 
 

the highest im willing to go is around 250 dollars. whats wrong with the dss? i heard its the same as astro mixamp just without added chat mix or daisy chaining.

The signal/noise ratio.  It outputs static noise no matter the volume level.  The astro mixamp is completely quiet until it starts hitting about 60% on the master volume, but won't reach near DSS noise levels until it's around 70-80%.
 
It's something I personally don't like, but I can understand if you don't have an issue with it.

Quote:

tmraven said:

The signal/noise ratio.  It outputs static noise no matter the volume level.  The astro mixamp is completely quiet until it starts hitting about 60% on the master volume, but won't reach near DSS noise levels until it's around 70-80%.
 
It's something I personally don't like, but I can understand if you don't have an issue with it.

Click to expand...

where do you get these facts do you own both of them? because according to this guy who owns both of them the dss has a lower max volume and has no distortion at the max but the astros have a higher max but get distorted about at about 75%. he also did a frequency test and the dss did better. also if you look at both of the specs side by side the dss has a better frequency range.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuTOtCyME8w&feature=related

I used to have a DPX21, which was the PX21 with DSS packaged.  I A/B'd the DSS and Mixamp for a couple days with my AD700.  The mixamp was completely silent, while the DSS gave static interference.  That static noise has nothing to do with distortion or frequency range btw.  Frequency range also means nothing in the grand scheme of things.  For example, headphone companies like to advertise their headphones with ranges of say 5hz to 45khz, but realistically, not many headphones can extend below 30hz with competence, nor is there much musical or game effect information past 10khz.  With the AD700, it won't matter at all, because it can't produce low frequencies under 50hz with any competence or visceral impact.  If you're after something that can extend that low, you're better off getting something like Denon D2000 for your gaming.
 
The guy in the video doesn't sound too knowledgeable.  I wouldn't take his word over someone, say, akaTrent or any other well-regarded member on head-fi.
 

Quote:

tmraven said:

I used to have a DPX21, which was the PX21 with DSS packaged.  I A/B'd the DSS and Mixamp for a couple days with my AD700.  The mixamp was completely silent, while the DSS gave static interference.  That static noise has nothing to do with distortion or frequency range btw.  Frequency range also means nothing in the grand scheme of things.  For example, headphone companies like to advertise their headphones with ranges of say 5hz to 45khz, but realistically, not many headphones can extend below 30hz with competence, nor is there much musical or game effect information past 10khz.  With the AD700, it won't matter at all, because it can't produce low frequencies under 50hz with any competence or visceral impact.  If you're after something that can extend that low, you're better off getting something like Denon D2000 for your gaming.

Click to expand...

 
ok thanks for clearing that up i thought distortion included that hissing sound. what do you think about the ad700's since you own them too? i know the sound quality is supposed to be great but i also heard they dont immerse you in the game that well because they are open and dont have much bass. what do you think about them? also what is your headset setup for xbox or whatever you use if you dont mind me asking?

I use AD700+Labtec LVA-7330 hooked up to an Astro Mixamp for the PS3.
 
My opinion on the AD700s:
 
Their price/performance is extremely good.
Their comfort is unmatched. 
They sound great for gaming, where things tend to not get as busy as music at times.  I thought they sounded real good for music, but always was bothered by the lack of sub-bass.  For gaming I don't really mind the lack of sub-bass.  Compared to higher-end headphones, they not only lack in the bass for music, but their sound signature as a whole sounds off-timbre.
 
Really you got yourself a winner for games.  I haven't sold mine off yet, and if I did, it'd be to get an AD900. (Which I heard is the AD700 but with anything better, and enough bass to be passable for music)  Might be a consideration for a switch a long time down the road.
 
 

Quote:

tmraven said:

I use AD700+Labtec LVA-7330 hooked up to an Astro Mixamp for the PS3.
 
My opinion on the AD700s:
 
Their price/performance is extremely good.
Their comfort is unmatched. 
They sound great for gaming, where things tend to not get as busy as music at times.  I thought they sounded real good for music, but always was bothered by the lack of sub-bass.  For gaming I don't really mind the lack of sub-bass.  Compared to higher-end headphones, they not only lack in the bass for music, but their sound signature as a whole sounds off-timbre.
 
Really you got yourself a winner for games.  I haven't sold mine off yet, and if I did, it'd be to get an AD900. (Which I heard is the AD700 but with anything better, and enough bass to be passable for music)  Might be a consideration for a switch a long time down the road.
 
 

Click to expand...

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/446329/fragtality-s-audio-technica-ad700-boom-mic-mod/45
 
what is that pluhhmm guy talking about saying that the simulated 5.1 is a joke? what do you think about what he is saying? ave you tested with and without the simulated sound?

I think he's full of hot air.  Dolby Headphone is pretty legit.

Agree about the DSS, it does have quite a bit of hiss however, the deal extreme clip on mic is a fantastic bargain and works exceptionally well for console gaming (I have one).  This clip on should not be compared to the Zalman, as it has none of its flaws.  Really an amazing buy considering the price.  The only downside is that it can take several weeks to be delivered.   

 
Quote:

tmraven said:

Well, what exactly is your limit budget wise?  The weakest links I see there are the DSS, because it's very noisy, and the clip-on mic.  I've no experience with that particular clip on mic, but I do know that popular consensus for other clip on mics like the zalman one never pick up enough volume for console gaming.  Boom mics like the labtec one are better.
 
 

Click to expand...

 

so does the mixamp have a 3.5 mm jack for a mic or do i still have to buy an adapter?

Dolby Headphone is quite noticeable and makes a good deal difference for the better, especially with gaming / movie watching.  I wouldn't say it's a joke at all.

Mixamp has 2 3.5mm jacks up front.  One for headphones and one for 360 mic.  No bass-boost tho, that might be a deal-breaker for you if you use bass boost with the AD700.

Quote:

tmraven said:

Mixamp has 2 3.5mm jacks up front.  One for headphones and one for 360 mic.  No bass-boost tho, that might be a deal-breaker for you if you use bass boost with the AD700.

Click to expand...

but the 360 mic has a 2.5mm jack, i'm confused.