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Thanks Tyll for the measurements. Invaluable service.
A pleasure, mate. Nice post!
Thanks Tyll for the measurements. Invaluable service.
With the K-702 I can easily hear, and feel the 20hz. Maybe the other hps have to much sub, or over powering sub bass, or lower mids, and this make you think the K702 lack some sub-bass. Looks like this is a big common mistake here.
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The K601 on the other hand started rolling of where the K701 was still good to go...
I doubt that - maybe you're used to the smallish midbass hump of the K701?
hell, even my Etymotic HF5 have more bass. If there was a K601 with K701 bass I'd love to own this hybrid. (the Austrian produced models might be different though???)
Considering how rolled off the treble is in the HF5 that isn't very surprising, it should sound like it has more bass because the balance is set that way. The K601 is a very accurate headphone, it doesn't try to emphasize anything - only produce what's there.
I'd like to see a China v. Austrian measurement of the K601 - but I seriously doubt major differences would be found.
The K601 on the other hand started rolling of where the K701 was still good to go... hell, even my Etymotic HF5 have more bass. If there was a K601 with K701 bass I'd love to own this hybrid. (the Austrian produced models might be different though???)
The sub-bass in the K701/ K702 is recessed compared to the other frequencies. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I bought my K601 with great expectations due to exactly this graph.
signed +1,
concerning the K601... I bought it a month ago to get rid of the excessive K701 7k pitch (I like my highs and upper mids neutral or recessed ) but the only available models were the new China produced models. After a month of burn-in and testing on several rigs, comparing them to my Sextetts MP and my K701 I absolutely hated them.
I never had a problem with bass on the K701, which could reach real low, lacked impact but the bass was great. The K601 on the other hand started rolling of where the K701 was still good to go... hell, even my Etymotic HF5 have more bass. If there was a K601 with K701 bass I'd love to own this hybrid. (the Austrian produced models might be different though???)
But in the end both the K601 and Q/K700 series lack body... so I still prefer my Sextetts, but miss the K701 detail and soundstage.
I bought my K601 with great expectations due to exactly this graph. But like I explained earlier there was less bass and an earlier roll off although this graph tells another story.
Plus... this graph looks far to ridiculously good to be true. seriously, there is close to no fr-graph on headroom which can compare to THIS.