[MattTCG]

Comfort is great for me also. I think that a lot of it is the adjustable nozzels. 

 

[yolan]

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MKII Graph Stuff
 
 
 
BE Graph Stuff
 

@TunneLVisioN42:
 
Maybe you already said, and I just coudln't find  (too many posts maybe).. but I'd appreciate if you could say where you got these graphs from
Is it the manufacturer, or some "independent" source?
 
Thanks!

 

[waynes world]

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@TunneLVisioN42:
 
Maybe you already said, and I just coudln't find  (too many posts maybe).. but I'd appreciate if you could say where you got these graphs from
Is it the manufacturer, or some "independent" source?
 
Thanks!

 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-data-sheet-downloads

 

[yolan]

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http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-data-sheet-downloads

Thank you !!

 

[Longtime Lurker]

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Are you even a hip-hop head to make that kind of statement about bass and hip-hop?

I use mine daily strictly for hip-hop and the bass is definitely plenty

Maybe enough for you. But, others want strong sub-bass. Even the BE's aren't that strong on bass, but it's much better than the soft MKIIs.
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Wow. Either you have no seal or you're an extreme basshead. The MK2's rumble more than any headphone I have.

Even other reviews on the internet mention that the old gr07s (mk1 and 2) are bass-light and soft. Not quite sure why wanting real, impactful, rumbling bass makes someone a "basshead." What's the point of bass if it's going to be soft and weak?

 

[KamijoIsMyHero]

Well if your main focus one an iem is bass and wanting only that part of the spectrum to stand out then you are a basshead.

Hip-hop doesn't have a whole lot of sub-bass to begin with, only digitized crap will have it. A majority of its the bass will focus on mid-upper bass.

Maybe enough for you. But, others want strong sub-bass. Even the BE's aren't that strong on bass, but it's much better than the soft MKIIs.


Even other reviews on the internet mention that the old gr07s (mk1 and 2) are bass-light and soft. Not quite sure why wanting real, impactful, rumbling bass makes someone a "basshead." What's the point of bass if it's going to be soft and weak?

 

[Jodiuh]

Sorry about that. I guess everyones ears are different. For me, the MK2s deliver "real, impactful, rumbling bass."

The BEs make vocals harder to understand, but definitely rumble harder if that's what ur looking for.

 

[Renato-CWB]

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Sorry about that. I guess everyones ears are different. For me, the MK2s deliver "real, impactful, rumbling bass."

Everyones ears and everyones taste... and probably everyones media collection.
 
About media and bass, I always get astonished that so few folks talk about media at all. Media (or even earlier, recording and mastering) is where everything begins. Mastering philosophies seem to have changed a lot over the last decades.  I love the MK2 and principally with newer and audiophile media they do have a very very good bass in terms of precision, resolution, extention and impact. Every little bit more of bass would be too much FOR MY TASTE.  On the other hand, many of my CDs were bought back in the 80's... and at that time mastering was generally thinner with much less bass focus.   For those media probably a BE could be an interesting choice for me, but only for those media.
 
Coming to the point:  the "right" phone, IMO, does not only depend on personal preferences, but to a large degree of the quality of the media you are listening too. That's what I have faced also with full size phones.  I think that's an important point to be considered when we are reviewing and judging phones.

 

[Jodiuh]

I'm SURE someone put this here already, but just in case:
 
http://youtu.be/aHjpOzsQ9YI
 
Sounds AMAZING on the GR07's.

 

[Renato-CWB]

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Sounds AMAZING on the GR07's.

Want another example?  Watch this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUtHe2agREs
Can't think of a silkyer and more natural sounding bass than this with the MK2, as well as a delicious overall presentation.

 

[deltabi]

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Sorry about that. I guess everyones ears are different. For me, the MK2s deliver "real, impactful, rumbling bass."

The BEs make vocals harder to understand, but definitely rumble harder if that's what ur looking for.

Sorry for inserting in the discussion, but I'm trying to decide between the MkII and the Bass Edition and I can't reach a conclusion based on what I'm reading here and in other places. I even started a specific thread (see here) to try to gather some comments: I know some part of the decision is based on personal preference, but I would like to receive, hopefully, some comments and comparisons related to the Westone UM2 which are the only earphones that I know very well.
Thank you in advance for your comments.

 

[MattTCG]

You'll likely want comments from those who have owned both...I haven't. FWIW, I enjoy a little extra colored bass as long as it's tight and textured and not bloomy and loose. The mkII hits hard and with authority. There is nothing loose or bloomy about it. I listened to the new Daft Punk a few days ago and was blown away at how well the MkII handled the bass. Jazz, Blues and Pop with a good bass line play out very well also with the MkII. 
 
I don't feel that I'm missing anything at all when it comes to the bass/sub region. While I'm not a bass head, you can call bass head light. And I'm very pleased with the full spectrum on the MkII.
 
gL!!

 

[JoeDoe]

You'll likely want comments from those who have owned both...I haven't. FWIW, I enjoy a little extra colored bass as long as it's tight and textured and not bloomy and loose. The mkII hits hard and with authority. There is nothing loose or bloomy about it. I listened to the new Daft Punk a few days ago and was blown away at how well the MkII handled the bass. Jazz, Blues and Pop with a good bass line play out very well also with the MkII. 

I don't feel that I'm missing anything at all when it comes to the bass/sub region. While I'm not a bass head, you can call bass head light. And I'm very pleased with the full spectrum on the MkII.

gL!!

+1 well said

 

[deltabi]

Thanks, Matt.
I don't feel like a bass head, either, maybe a "bass head light" as you call it, so your comment is very welcome...
I'll hopefully wait for someone else with experience with both UM2 and GR07 kicking in...

 

[Longtime Lurker]

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Well if your main focus one an iem is bass and wanting only that part of the spectrum to stand out then you are a basshead.

Hip-hop doesn't have a whole lot of sub-bass to begin with, only digitized crap will have it. A majority of its the bass will focus on mid-upper bass.

The main focus is power and clarity in one. The BEs do this. The vanilla's are just soft 'phones for those who prefer soft music. These BEs give impact to most hiphop tracks, while not over-doing it on the rock tracks. Edit: Maybe we can coin these people as "soft listeners."