HiFiman HE-500 (HE as in High End) Proving to be an enjoyable experience in listening.
Apr 17, 2014 at 6:46 AM Post #13,396 of 20,386
 
The shure you mention is very week judging from specs (30 mW into 8 ohms, 20 into 63 ohms before clipping). Has also got an output impedance at around 10 ohms.


I can assure you.... IT IS NOT :smiling_imp:

I bet it will even drive a HE-6 with ease or even my STAX Sigma Pros if that would technically be possible!

Someone willing to buy a FP-22 and prove me wrong?

That makes no sense. We are talking a battery powered device here. Well, perhaps it's a hidden treasure, who knows.
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 7:01 AM Post #13,397 of 20,386
That makes no sense. We are talking a battery powered device here. Well, perhaps it's a hidden treasure, who knows.


It really is..... However I use the original power supply, but batteries work as well, it will deafen you, just check the reviews. The fp22 is studio gear, versatile and is built like a tank. I believe it is still for sale on ebay, you can find out for only $50 :wink:
I don't know how to convince you otherwise, but this little box is a beast!
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 7:55 AM Post #13,399 of 20,386
  A re-cable has really been awesome for my HE-500 and I don't mean sonically. I hated the stock cable (and still do) so I went with a Norne Audio (formerly Norse Audio) OCC cable/sleeved. Awesome. I'm the type of person to pay for aesthetics, so for me, it was well worth it. YMMV...


^^^THIS^^^
 
I also have a Norse cable, the original Norn. Sounds and looks great, very flexible.
 
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Apr 17, 2014 at 8:04 AM Post #13,400 of 20,386
 
That makes no sense. We are talking a battery powered device here......


BTW have you ever tried the STAX SRD-X (Pro)? Battery powered too and it blows your eardrum's using electrostatics :smiling_imp:

No, I have not. Camping with my srm-t1 tube amp, which can indeed deafen, I'd tend to think. I actaully once pushed it like past 2 o'clock with my sigma nb to push it's limits. Didn't quite get there, and I didn't dare go any further. I tend to think my ears would distort before the amp would.
 
But really, just about any decent amp will blow my eardrums so to speak. Isn't really a way to judge amps imo. I mean, even my iphone drives my HE-500 more than loud enough.. Without hard clipping.
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 9:23 AM Post #13,401 of 20,386
No, I have not. Camping with my srm-t1 tube amp, which can indeed deafen, I'd tend to think. I actaully once pushed it like past 2 o'clock with my sigma nb to push it's limits. Didn't quite get there, and I didn't dare go any further. I tend to think my ears would distort before the amp would.

But really, just about any decent amp will blow my eardrums so to speak. Isn't really a way to judge amps imo. I mean, even my iphone drives my HE-500 more than loud enough.. Without hard clipping.


Of course I agree volume isn't the way to judge an amp, I was only referring to the "that doesn't make sense, we are talking about a battery powered device" -issue. Volume on this device starts at 12 o' clock but I wouldn't even dare to push it to 3 o'clock. What's more important is that SQ is superb, no distortion, noises/dead silent and accurate. Drives my T1 's well too. So if someone would ask me for advice for a bang for the buck amp the FP-22 would be the one. I believe these used to sell at $400 but unfortunately were discontinued. The ones that are for sale usually are from music studios/musicians/roadies and have some serious wear and tear, and evidently that's not because they were sitting in a drawer due to bad quality :wink: No, this is a hidden treasure alright and can't recommend it enough
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM Post #13,402 of 20,386
From the looks i really like the He-560 which is strange because of the Audeze i'm not so fond of how they look.
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 10:10 AM Post #13,403 of 20,386
I'm wondering if anyone had the chance to compare HE-500's to MrSpeakers Alpha Dogs - I really like the sound of the HE-500's but it's hard for me to find a quiet place to listen so I'm looking for something similar but closed back. Opinions/suggestions?
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 3:37 PM Post #13,404 of 20,386
I'm wondering if anyone had the chance to compare HE-500's to MrSpeakers Alpha Dogs - I really like the sound of the HE-500's but it's hard for me to find a quiet place to listen so I'm looking for something similar but closed back. Opinions/suggestions?

Imo the he-500 are better but if you want closed headphones, alpha dog is a good choice. And they are less warm.
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 3:44 PM Post #13,406 of 20,386
Thanks for the input. I suppose I could always try modding my own T50RP's...

Lol i think you have to buy a 3d printer.
Seriously, the AD are very good. I Am listening with them at the moment even at home because I sold my he-500 to preorder he-560 :)
I am not sad.
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 3:49 PM Post #13,407 of 20,386
Lol i think you have to buy a 3d printer.
Seriously, the AD are very good. I Am listening with them at the moment even at home because I sold my he-500 to preorder he-560
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I am not sad.

Well, there are a bunch of threads on modding T50RP's but I'm sure I'd never get them to the level of the AD's. They just seem a little expensive at $600 so I may have to wait around for a used pair to show up.
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 3:57 PM Post #13,408 of 20,386
Yep with the threads of modding you may have Also good results. True that AD are expensive.
(Sorry i just Joking before)
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 3:58 PM Post #13,409 of 20,386
 
  The HE500s can handle all that power, heck I've even turned up the volume to maximum (deafening volumes) on the speaker amp with no resistors and used it like a speaker. It handles that power with ease. Also 50w into 8ohms isn't the same as 50w into 32 ohms. Theres no issue so long as you're not using something like a 200w amp. The noise is only an issue at deafening volumes and only for the mini-x, my Topping has hardly any noise floor.
 
Why doesn't everyone use speaker amps? Not knowing? fear? marketing? Sorry I don't know

 

 
 
That's pretty much what I said to preproman when I was first using the emo. I was amazed how much SQ i was getting. I think we came to a few conclusions.
 
1. Headphone amplifiers are more of a boutique item. Very limited supply, so vendors can charge a lot for what they make.
2. Most headphones really don't need a lot of power. Hooking up a Denon D2000 to an emotiva would have a high noise floor
3. Super easy to blow out drivers on a speaker amp.
4. Most important, the speaker amplifier market is really heavily saturated. There's just as much marketing garbage as in headphones, but in the end, there's a lot more competition to make a good amp at a cheap price.
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 4:47 PM Post #13,410 of 20,386
Headphone amp are cool when you like to listen... headphones.
And at work i need a discret, invisible, thing.
But yes, at home my prefered amp for my hi-end headphones are my Nad amp. And the Vali because of fun.
Yes, if you have a good speaker amp it could be sufficient.
 

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